(10-11-2012, 06:24 PM)Conifer16 Wrote: i'm pretty sure that the vid does zoom out and show the head and trunk moving to paint. it could be a fake, true.
Watch carefully starting at 1:25. At 1:26 the video changes, and after that, all of the painting is done showing only the trunk, and part of the head, which could easily be fake.
The whole elephant isn't shown again until after someone conveniently walks in front of the camera at 6:37. The line added to the bottom, and the tip of the trunk added at the end, aren't zoomed so could be faked.
However, the part with the leaves on the flower are zoomed, and it's a real elephant!!! So now I don't know! I'm going to ask my artist friend to rewatch it and explain to me how the leaves could have been faked.
It's possible the elephant made a shape at the beginning that looked like the outline of an elephant, they filled in the middle, then the elephant was trained to add the leaves at the end. (Or, my friend is wrong and it really is real! But in that case, why is this the only one? Why are the others in the elephant art gallery of a much lesser quality? And why isn't this one in the gallery?) The main reason I'm still skeptical about all of it being real is the obvious cut at 1:25. But the leaves at the end...that has me stumped.

(10-11-2012, 06:24 PM)Conifer16 Wrote: however, the crowds reaction and the reaction specifically of that little kid. seems to point towards real.
The crowd comments are just audio - easily added on to video footage. But...what little kid? I missed that.
I'm definitely gonna share all these comments with my friend. Either we'll make him a believer, or he'll expose our gullibility!

Edit: OK I just did a search to see if there was more of that caliber. Yes, there is, but guess what - NO zoomouts!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeqWt8Ke3ZE
And, if you look closely, you'll notice that the tip of the trunk is just hanging, whereas the tip of the trunk in the first video is obviously grasping the brush and is shaped like a human hand.
So, if these are all fake, the scammers aren't in sync with each other. They're using different effects on the trunk, which supports the case for them all being fake. Real elephants would all grasp the brush the same way, I'd think.
Still doesn't explain the leaves on the flower, though!
Oh wow, there are lots more! Just do a youtube search for 'elephant art.' But the ones I've seen so far don't have zoomouts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oim2LFo1jJ8
I haven't found any footage that shows the whole elephants, doing the whole painting, from start to finish with no cuts.
Hey, I'm the advocate for animal intelligence, remember?
