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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Ra's Adventures in Wonderland

    Thread: Ra's Adventures in Wonderland


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    10-24-2012, 03:19 AM (This post was last modified: 10-24-2012, 03:38 AM by Tenet Nosce.)
    Patrick Wrote:These numbers are nearly meaningless to me and you already know that I, like you, do not like the terms STS and STO very much.

    Well now why do you suppose that is? Because we are truth haters? Or because they are confusion? BigSmile

    At the least, we would agree that those terms are the source of much confusion. Therefore, why not dispense with them? What is the attachment to these terms really about?

    According to my understanding, there are those who are of the opinion that "STS and STO" are central to Ra's philosophy because they believe "The Choice" is defined in the Ra Material as a decision between "STS and STO". Therefore to take these out of the equation, so to speak, might seem as if we were unraveling the very fabric of existence the "axis upon which the creation turns."

    But, as you can see for yourself, Ra never said this:

    Quote:76.15 Questioner: Then we have a third density that is, comparatively speaking, the twinkling of an eye, the snap of a finger in time compared to the others. Why is the third density cycled so extremely rapidly compared to the first and second?

    Ra: I am Ra. The third density is a choice.

    76.16 Questioner: Third density, then, compared to the rest of the densities, all of them, is nothing but a uniquely short period of what we consider to be time and is for the purpose of this choice.

    Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is precisely correct. The prelude to choice must encompass the laying of the foundation, the establishment of the illusion and the viability of that which can be made spiritually viable. The remainder of the densities is continuous refining of the choice. This also is greatly lengthened, as you would use the term. The choice is, as you put it, the work of a moment but is the axis upon which the creation turns.

    The purpose of third density is to make a choice. Not just any choice, but "The Choice" as represented by the archetype. "The Choice" upon which the creation turns.

    IF we are to believe that "The Choice" = "deciding between STS and STO" THEN the entire creation turns upon this choice between the two.

    But that doesn't make any sense. Why would the entire creation rest upon making a choice that is essentially meaningless once made? That's not even a real choice. That would more properly be called a decision.

    And it's barely even a decision, because self and other are identical, according to the Law of One. That means choosing to polarize is choosing to polarize, the path is irrelevant.

    Then the imagery gets even more confused because there is the propensity to layer another meme on top of this which is about "good" and "evil". So there is this assumption among some of us that STO is the "good guys" and STS is the "bad guys".

    I am saying no, that's not really what it is at all. But seeing as how L/L Research, and we humans, are prone to thinking in terms of "ethics and activity", I can understand the tendency to view it that way.

    But polarization doesn't in reality have so much to do with "ethics and activity" as it does with "alignment and identity". That is why Ra defines it in those terms.

    Patrick Wrote:Those on the positive path grow through identification of self and "others" as being One and all being the Creator (I AM YOU & YOU ARE ME).

    That reads to me like you are describing polarization on both paths. You have an "&" in there.

    Quote:Those on the negative path grow through identification of self as being the Creator and others being something else (I AM THE CREATOR, YOU ARE NOT).

    But that isn't possible.

    Quote:Of course, it's not possible

    BigSmile

    See? It doesn't make any sense, and you know it! The attitude you are describing does not result in polarization, whatsoever. That is on neither path. That is the "sinkhole of indifference".

    Quote:Hence why the negative polarity is completely built on an omission of reality.

    But it isn't. The negative path is a completely valid view of reality. If an entity wishes to have control over another entity, then they must come to realize their true identity. True power cannot be derived from false identity.

    19.16 Wrote:The majority of third-density beings is far along the chosen path before realization of that path is conscious.

    How can a being make "The Choice" before they are conscious? Doesn't make sense.

    46.6 Wrote:The catalyst, and all catalyst, is designed to offer experience. This experience in your density may be loved and accepted or it may be controlled. These are the two paths. When neither path is chosen the catalyst fails in its design and the entity proceeds until catalyst strikes it which causes it to form a bias towards acceptance and love or separation and control. There is no lack of space/time in which this catalyst may work.

    The catalyst fails when neither is chosen. Not when one is "incorrectly" chosen over the other.

    4.20 Wrote:The Law of One, though beyond the limitations of name, as you call vibratory sound complexes, may be approximated by stating that all things are one, that there is no polarity, no right or wrong, no disharmony, but only identity.

    If polarity is an illusion, then how can the entire creation turn upon it?

    (10-23-2012, 09:11 PM)drifting pages Wrote: more and more finding what or who i am

    Isn't that exactly how we gain polarity? How could we polarize by coming to believe that we are something we are not? If that were the case, then those in the strongest denial will have gained the most polarity by the end of third density. Damn, and all this time I've been going for authenticity! BigSmile
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    Ra's Adventures in Wonderland - by Tenet Nosce - 10-13-2012, 12:50 AM
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