Ra's Adventures in Wonderland

[Patrick]

...At the least, we would agree that those terms are the source of much confusion. Therefore, why not dispense with them? What is the attachment to these terms really about?

The only attachment I have with these terms is that they are well known LOO terms to name the two polarities and so when speaking with other LOO students, they know what I am talking about.

But yes for the purpose of our discussion here, we would be better the drop them off completely.

According to my understanding, there are those who are of the opinion that "STS and STO" are central to Ra's philosophy because they believe "The Choice" is defined in the Ra Material as a decision between "STS and STO". Therefore to take these out of the equation, so to speak, might seem as if we were unraveling the very fabric of existence the "axis upon which the creation turns."
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IF we are to believe that "The Choice" = "deciding between STS and STO" THEN the entire creation turns upon this choice between the two.

But that doesn't make any sense. Why would the entire creation rest upon making a choice that is essentially meaningless once made? That's not even a real choice. That would more properly be called a decision.

The choice made is very real even if it is made based on an illusion. Remember, experience is real.

I believe that the choice of the two polarities is The Choice of 3d. The reason for this belief is simply that 4th density time/space is now completely separate for the two polarities. You either go to 4d positive or 4d negative time/space after 3d harvest. I believe this is why Ra says that The Choice is the axis upon which the creation turns at this time in the evolution of our universe.

And it's barely even a decision, because self and other are identical, according to the Law of One. That means choosing to polarize is choosing to polarize, the path is irrelevant.

But from the point of view of experience, it's very relevant. Because so much of what you are going to experience in this octave after 3d depends on that choice. The flavor of your experiences are going to be very different indeed based on The Choice of polarity.

Then the imagery gets even more confused because there is the propensity to layer another meme on top of this which is about "good" and "evil". So there is this assumption among some of us that STO is the "good guys" and STS is the "bad guys".

I am saying no, that's not really what it is at all. But seeing as how L/L Research, and we humans, are prone to thinking in terms of "ethics and activity", I can understand the tendency to view it that way.

But polarization doesn't in reality have so much to do with "ethics and activity" as it does with "alignment and identity". That is why Ra defines it in those terms.

I agree that good and evil has even more baggage than STO and STS. So let's not use any terms that have ethics connotation then for our discussion.

Those on the positive path grow through identification of self and "others" as being One and all being the Creator (I AM YOU & YOU ARE ME).

That reads to me like you are describing polarization on both paths. You have an "&" in there.

The "&" is there to connote awareness of Oneness. There is no such thing as "polarization on both paths".

Those on the negative path grow through identification of self as being the Creator and others being something else (I AM THE CREATOR, YOU ARE NOT).

But that isn't possible.

Of course, it's not possible

See? It doesn't make any sense, and you know it! The attitude you are describing does not result in polarization, whatsoever. That is on neither path. That is the "sinkhole of indifference".

I know it yes, but those polarizing negatively do not while they are veiled. I do not agree that this attitude is what the "sinkhole of indifference" is.

Hence why the negative polarity is completely built on an omission of reality.

But it isn't. The negative path is a completely valid view of reality. If an entity wishes to have control over another entity, then they must come to realize their true identity. True power cannot be derived from false identity.

Because no one is auditing the course, ALL point of views are valid. All are the Creator knowing itself. Yes I know that once those on the negative path realizes their true identity, they are already far along the chosen path.

The Choice is not fully conscious, if it was fully conscious freewill would not operate as efficiently and that would be like it was before the veil. No such thing as control over your other-selves existed before the veil.

A Logos had to create conditions that results in so much confusion/distortions that such an illusion as "other" than the self could arise.

The majority of third-density beings is far along the chosen path before realization of that path is conscious.

How can a being make "The Choice" before they are conscious? Doesn't make sense.

Here is how (and this is the whole point my friend ).

Imagine you are 100% materialistic, this should not be too hard to imagine while incarnated here. Then you can do whatever you like to anyone because life has no purpose anyway and so you might as well live comfortably like an emperor with everyone else serving you IF opportunities to do so presents themselves (choices of what you will do with those opportunities). We all die anyway and we cease to exist so there are no consequences whatsoever. There is also no point to altruism. You actually laugh at how week minded and stupid the concept of altruism is. Since you are strong, it would be stupid not to use your strength to enslave others and live more comfortably. I mean, you only have one life to live, so you are certainly not going to waste your chances of having it easier on the back of others.

The catalyst, and all catalyst, is designed to offer experience. This experience in your density may be loved and accepted or it may be controlled. These are the two paths. When neither path is chosen the catalyst fails in its design and the entity proceeds until catalyst strikes it which causes it to form a bias towards acceptance and love or separation and control. There is no lack of space/time in which this catalyst may work.

The catalyst fails when neither is chosen. Not when one is "incorrectly" chosen over the other.

Indeed there are no incorrect choices. Even not choosing is perfectly fine.

The Law of One, though beyond the limitations of name, as you call vibratory sound complexes, may be approximated by stating that all things are one, that there is no polarity, no right or wrong, no disharmony, but only identity.

If polarity is an illusion, then how can the entire creation turn upon it?

It's only the beginning of the negative path that is based on an illusion. The choices that leads to the negative path can only be made while you are deluded.

Do not forget that, once this choice/path is crystallized, even after the veil is removed in 4d, they still choose not to open their heart chakra even while knowing that such a portion of awareness is available. They are aware of the omission that their path is based on, but that is what they chose to experience and they like it this way and all experience is perfectly fine for the Creator.