01-06-2013, 11:44 AM
(01-06-2013, 09:09 AM)plenum Wrote: Hi Siren!
is this post being remade?
That's the idea! I'm still working on it. On how to condense everything into a simple, concise and straight-forward post. I have started several drafts but they all ended up being too dense and too voluble for my liking. I don't want to make it 50 pages!
I do admit I have left this unattended. Now that you brought it up again I'm going to get back to it.
(01-06-2013, 09:40 AM)ShinAr Wrote: "if this 3rd density is an illusion, how then can a fifth density light being enter and interact with something that is an illusion in another density?"
Because 5th density is also an illusion.
How do you, as a 3rd-density entity, interact with a 2nd-density animal/vegetal or a 1st-density elemental? Or how do 4th-density "aliens" interact with 3rd-density human-beings?
Now, I feel the whole "light being" concept is grossly misinterpreted. From the perspective of a 3rd-density entity with a 3rd-density body with 3rd-density optical lenses and 3rd-density brain apparatus, the physical vehicle of one of 5th-density or above will indeed appear, be interpreted and processed as that of light in its most radiant and refulgent splendour. And I tell you: this is true; it is the most magnificent and brilliant of lights in contrast!
And yet, I am also aware, and I do make this assertion, that the physical vehicle I am wearing right now is also a light body—that is, its material, the "stuff" it is made of, is light; albeit 3rd-density light. There are only PHOTONS making up every fiber and chemical and molecule and cell and atom in my body. My body is a light body and so is yours; although the angular velocity (rotational speed) of the core photonic particles/waves/field that make up my physical vehicle is of a 3rd-density vibratory nature—not 4th, 5th, or 6th. Hence the difference. Bodies begin to become "luminiferous" in the higher-densities as the entity's awareness moves/vibrates closer to the Original Light. This is a natural result of evolution.
How solid do you think photons (i.e. light) are?
Quote:I think much of the problem is in the difference between how I define illusion and how many others here, and maybe even Ra, defines and applies the term 'illusion'.
Let us put it this way: there is One Original Desire, One Original Thought, and One Original Light or Material. That is the sequence—in that order. The first is free-will: the desire of Intelligent Infinity to know Itself. The second is Love or Intelligent Energy: a kinetic focus of motion, action, or pure vibration, which is the Creative Principle. The third is the resulting manifestation—that which is visible.
The Original Light, being a manifestation of the Original Thought, is pure, white, crystalline, transparent and limitless—not yet distorted in any way, shape, form or fashion. We are still at this point within the 3rd-distortion, which is light, without Creation.
Then Love/Intelligent Energy/the Original Thought diffracts this light and begins to weave the Creation. At this point light becomes distorted (and I never use "distortion" or "illusion" in a negative sense) as form, shape and color appears. This allows for differentiation of "manyness" and "variousness." Thus, the illusion is created of light (6.14). And many distortions/illusions are possible.
Simply put, without illusion there is no Creation, and hence no experience.
So illusions are basically artificial constructs made of light that create/allow the experience of growth, self-development, and mental/physical/spiritual evolution. Be-coming the Original Light/Thought/Will of the Creator dissolves the illusion. This is why 6th-density is substantially "free" from illusion ("rather than surrounding ourselves with light, we have become light," "time no longer holds sway," etc), and especially 7th-density due to its proximity to Intelligent Infinity at that point.
In case of potential misunderstandings, the Original Light/Material is not the illusion itself; only that which is formed and constructed out of it. Which is basically everything in Creation that has shape, form or color, or is otherwise differentiatiated from the formless, clear white light created by the Logos/Original Thought.
Quote:I have noted in another thread how I think Ra means to use that term, but there still seems to be some contradiction within the material. I continue to struggle with it. I am curious how you respond to the interaction between illusion in one density and reality in another.
Already addressed this concern. Each density is an illusion. I could draw plenty of quotes from The Ra Material as well as the Q'uo Transcripts to "certify" all this, but I do not wish to appear to be "endorsing" them; I simply wanted to share my own personal subjective thoughts on this, which just so happen to be consonant with those of Ra. If quotes are deemed necessary, I'll gladly post them.
Quote:is it just the matter of perception, or is there some other dynamic spoken of in the material that am unaware of?
If my efforts are sufficient I hope to clarify all this in the revision of my original post!