(03-04-2010, 06:07 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: WOW, Pablisimo, what an amazingly awesome, thoughtful, sensitive, and love-filled discourse! Thank you so much for sharing the male perspective with the Light of Love and Wisdom illuminating it!
(03-04-2010, 04:32 PM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: It has been only recently that men have been held accountable for their actions... in many places male arousal is considered to be a woman's fault... It is interesting is it not... Blaming the other. In some places, "I couldn't help myself she is so__________. And that's why I did ________________. is considered to be a real reason. Once again, this is about power over another.
I touched on this in my previous post. This is so very true. How many rape victims never reported the rape because, until recently (and it still happens now, unfortunately), the woman was often blamed for 'tempting' the man...just by being a woman!
I think it's important to note, though, that, although in most cases it's the man abusing the woman, certainly there are cases in which the woman intentionally wields her own feminine power to ensnare the man. It can work both ways!
(03-04-2010, 04:32 PM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: Porn is this and Sex Magic is this. And the objectifying women is this.
Can you clarify this please?
(03-04-2010, 04:32 PM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: Do you realize the largest way station for slavery in the world is in Ohio and Misssori and North Carolina? Have you ever thought that one of those women could be your sister or child?
Wow, I didn't know that! I would have thought Thailand or something...That is really disturbing.
Good Greetings Pablisimo and Monica and All:
Pablisimo, I would like to clarify that your post was informative and expanding. I would like to apologize for my passionate responses. Please do post! Your views are as valid as mine are... it is only through dialogue and discourse and the sharing of our stories that we grow!
I am learning/teaching and teaching/learning as I am sure many others are as well! I thank you for your post... I am learning. It provided me with the cataylst to work on some stuff that needed working on... Thank you.
Monica:
Porn is this and Sex Magic is this. And the objectifying women is this.
I meant in the context of misuse of power. When a person is objectifyed-- personhood is denied. Some much harm is done to another and self when a sentient being is objectified... This is what happens in Porn... the woman ceases to be a Human Being and is instead an object... an object to be viewed and used as such. The thought... that this is a person ceases to enter in the picture... and thus the object then becomes "owned." When personhood is denied another and the person is then an object and "owned"--- one justifies doing whatever one wants to the object... This is where goodness is suspended and a whole host of unfortunate events for the object begins. This is what I meant by objectifying... In STS sex magic the same things occurs... personhood is denied to the object which is considered to be a slave... do as one wants to with a slave. This is what happens when one watches porn... the objectifying of women and the denying of personhood becomes imprinted in the mind... The mind begins to rationalize the "okayness" of objectifying and denying personhood to the woman who is now an object and consider almost "not real."
These of course are my views... All views in the One are valid. And with the consideration of all views understanding and healing occurs. This is my take on this at least.
click here for links concerning the robust Human Trafficking Slave trade in the USA and World. Thailand has less trafficking than Cambodia and India.
Here are some links concerning Human Trafficking in USA for the robust Slave Trade here in the land of the Emancipated.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28161210/
and here http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/USA.htm and here http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...human.html
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/18/dome...in_america
http://humantrafficking.change.org/blog/...naway_kids
http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/getdo...unaways-in-
MO-- http://traffickingproject.blogspot.com/2...souri.html
http://www.themaneater.com/stories/2009/...afficking/
NC http://www.examiner.com/x-7403-Tampa-Cri...king-video
http://www.wbtv.com/global/story.asp?s=11828239
Porn and Human Trafficking... Great Articles about all those "free" images being discussed.
http://humantraffickingwatch.com/portal/...pologists/
http://www.alternet.org/rights/63791/
http://www.restorenyc.org/?cat=4
These are enough links to show the correlation between porn and human trafficking. This is of course my take on the subject along with many other people..
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