06-10-2013, 03:37 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-10-2013, 03:46 PM by Adonai One.)
(06-10-2013, 02:28 PM)anagogy Wrote:(06-10-2013, 02:02 PM)Adonai One Wrote: I don't believe that's correct. The universe has its destroyers; every heart contracts with every beat.
Sure, there are destroyers. But when you are plugged into the "whole", you aren't out to hurt people, I assure you. You wouldn't be "wiping everyone out". The motivation is completely different.
Motivation is quite an understatement. I will say this: This universe will inevitably be turned into oblivion and absorbed into the Source once more. With every great creation, there is a grand destruction.
The one infinite creator is also the one infinite destroyer.
(06-10-2013, 02:28 PM)anagogy Wrote:(06-10-2013, 02:02 PM)Adonai One Wrote: There have been men with great power that have achieved great destruction through intelligent infinity.
Such as?
Also, its important to realize that all things are a distortion of intelligent infinity. All powers, both great and small, are the result of the application of some distortion of this energy. I'm specifically referring to a relatively undistorted application of this energy.
Can you use real love to hurt people?
The people of Atlantis. Power is not reserved only for the positive polarity. The entity serving while being polarized positive is still with great distortion just as his negative brethren. There is no such thing as an acting and incarnate entity acting without distortion. But of course they can still achieve the power of intelligent infinity with any level of distortion. It's just the power will vary but it can be a great amount even with a remnant of distortion.
Yes, love is used to hurt people everyday. Hurt is love. All things are love. There is no such thing as "real love." In fact, even hate is love for it was created out of the love of the creator getting to know itself. It is the contraction as opposed to the beating of the heart.
The love in the metaphysical context is not just pure pleasure but all acts of creation. A creation is defined by the destruction of its canvas and the creation of the colors upon it.
(06-10-2013, 02:28 PM)anagogy Wrote:(06-10-2013, 02:02 PM)Adonai One Wrote: All I am saying is that there are static limits: A consensus, a rulesheet, laws that came into existence when the central galactic Sun came to being. I argue that magic isn't really magic but another science that stands under physics.
"Magic" is generally just a word people apply to things they don't understand. Calling it "science" doesn't make it any more understandable. But then Arthur C. Clarke once said any sufficiently developed technology is indistinguishable from magic, and isn't consciousness the ultimate technology when you really think about it?
Also, I would say what we call "magic" stands "over" science, rather than under it, hence the word "meta-physics".
As Ra says, "Unity, at this approximation of understanding, cannot be specified by any physics but only be activated or potentiated intelligent infinity due to the catalyst of free will. This may be difficult to accept. However, the understandings we have to share begin and end in mystery."
The nonphysics rules the physics. "78.5 [...] The physical complex renal system of this instrument is much damaged. The time/space equivalent which rules the body complex is without flaw."
Of course the rules are without flaw as the physics of our universe are without flaw and cannot judged to be flawed. They just are. Non-physics are physics. Rules are physics. They just aren't recognized by our current scientific establishment. It's not considered knowledge by all.
As for undistorted unity -- it's not applicable in this discussion. There are limits to the intelligent infinity that flows into our galactic, solar and planetary systems. There are distortions to this unity: That is what we are discussing. The rules of our local time/space are the same rules that define our matter and universe. They are physics which are the distortions of all things that define our reality.
We can call these distortions physics or natural laws and the study of said physics science. Why call it science? Because science is simply Latin for "Knowledge". The distortions can be quantified, spiritually or otherwise. The distortions used in magic can be quantified. In fact, they are no different than the distortions used to build a house or move a ball in our hands. They are mostly static. If they are dynamic, they can be grouped into a static, quantifiable set.
As for undistorted-unity -- of course it does not fit under the label of "physics" for it is indivisible. It is the ultimate superset of all things. It is what defines physics but, again, our local time/space is not simply non-physics: Again, the rules it defines can be quantified and thus be considered a set of physics.
After all physics simply means "knowledge of nature."