02-13-2009, 09:40 AM
Trapped? How can you call it trapped my friend. No one is putting a gun to their head in any shape or form. If any pressure exists they're putting the gun to their own head. But most of the time these people WANT to be there. I hang out in christian circles. And the assumption that these guys are trapped well I just cannot fit it to those christians I know.
A society, any society gets the leadership it asks for. Why does the vatican hold the influence over people that it does? Because the people have given the vatican this influence. This is the peoples way of saying I want to follow my faith in agreement with others.
I was once told that there are two kinds of leaders. There is a small group of natural leaders who inspire others to follow them. And a huge group of leaders who do what is expected of them. The vatican is certainly the latter variation.
Also these people are not wrong. I am not saying they're the only ones that are right or that their method is "the best". But they are living their personal formula to salvation. What you see in the vatican is an expression of the followers of the vatican. I've seen recipe's for meditation on this forum descriptions on how to see things and what things to do or not do. We have our own formula to salvation.
Theirs is different. That is all.
Then there is also the money question. The evil money that corrupts and should be abandoned as soon as possible.
I follow a sufi friends interpretation of money.
We have a karmic template that makes us rich or poor. A rich person never needs money. A poor person always feels the need for more money. This has nothing to do with how much money they actually have. When a poor man is given a lot of money.. For example by winning a lottery. Then he is still a poor man. Unless he takes the opportunity to karmically change he will either lose all that money, or just let it rot in his bank account. A rich man who loses everything will be filthy rich again in just a few years.
Why? Because the world reflects what you are. None of us is trapped in the world. The world conforms to us... Not the other way around.
I am personally a rich man. This does not mean I have a lot of money. It just means that I have what I need. I always had what I need. And I'm expecting I always will have what I need. I work for money I do not always like my job. But this in itself is a spiritual adventure.
Theres a few other templates possible. For example the concubine which is more common for women than for men. (Although I do know a guy with the template) Basically they emotionally physically and karmically attach to another person who has a healthy root chakra. They are neither rich nor poor. They may not even have bank accounts. The universe just provides through their partners and friends because they decreed it should be so.
A society, any society gets the leadership it asks for. Why does the vatican hold the influence over people that it does? Because the people have given the vatican this influence. This is the peoples way of saying I want to follow my faith in agreement with others.
I was once told that there are two kinds of leaders. There is a small group of natural leaders who inspire others to follow them. And a huge group of leaders who do what is expected of them. The vatican is certainly the latter variation.
Also these people are not wrong. I am not saying they're the only ones that are right or that their method is "the best". But they are living their personal formula to salvation. What you see in the vatican is an expression of the followers of the vatican. I've seen recipe's for meditation on this forum descriptions on how to see things and what things to do or not do. We have our own formula to salvation.
Theirs is different. That is all.
Then there is also the money question. The evil money that corrupts and should be abandoned as soon as possible.
I follow a sufi friends interpretation of money.We have a karmic template that makes us rich or poor. A rich person never needs money. A poor person always feels the need for more money. This has nothing to do with how much money they actually have. When a poor man is given a lot of money.. For example by winning a lottery. Then he is still a poor man. Unless he takes the opportunity to karmically change he will either lose all that money, or just let it rot in his bank account. A rich man who loses everything will be filthy rich again in just a few years.
Why? Because the world reflects what you are. None of us is trapped in the world. The world conforms to us... Not the other way around.
I am personally a rich man. This does not mean I have a lot of money. It just means that I have what I need. I always had what I need. And I'm expecting I always will have what I need. I work for money I do not always like my job. But this in itself is a spiritual adventure.
Theres a few other templates possible. For example the concubine which is more common for women than for men. (Although I do know a guy with the template) Basically they emotionally physically and karmically attach to another person who has a healthy root chakra. They are neither rich nor poor. They may not even have bank accounts. The universe just provides through their partners and friends because they decreed it should be so.