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    Thread: to kill or not to kill? that is the question.


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    07-23-2013, 10:37 AM
    killing seems to be related to scale.

    for eg, most of us would feel 'bad' about killing a large sized creature. for eg a dog or a cat. Or let's magnify it and say a whale or a planet even (Maldek or Mars anyone? planet killer!)

    and def, on a similiar scale to us, a fellow human is considered a bad thing to kill (it is murder in most countries, and the death penalty is outlawed in many countries, so even the state doesn't have the right to kill its own citizens).

    but when you drop the scale, say, down to insect level or ants, the ethical concerns drop too. And let's zoom down even more, and most of us use antibacterial soaps and cleaning agents to kills germs in the kitchen and the bathroom. Hey, that's 2d life as well, although not as 'sophisticated' as 'larger scale' entities.

    so yeah, maybe there's a recognition at the larger scale of life, there is a greater 'individuation' and 'uniqueness' ... and the act of killing would remove a portion of uniqueness of the creator (incarnate experience that is).

    and at the lower scale, there is less individuation of consciousness (say a bee hive or ant hive), and there is a 'group mind' which quite readily survives the death of one unit of insect, and so, what is actually lost by the cessation of the physical shell? their numbers are legion and endlessly prolific, esp when you get down to say a bacterial or viral level.

    Quote:20.3 The animal which is exposed to the individualizing influences of the bond between animal and third-density entity, this individuation causes a sharp rise in the potential of the second-density entity so that upon the cessation of physical complex the mind/body complex does not return unto the undifferentiated consciousness of that species, if you will.

    so yeah, there's another way of re-perspectivizing the issue.
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    to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 07-23-2013, 08:50 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 07-23-2013, 10:27 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Jeremy - 07-23-2013, 05:37 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Plenum - 07-23-2013, 10:37 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 07-23-2013, 11:47 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Jade - 07-23-2013, 11:56 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by vervex - 07-23-2013, 12:31 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 07-23-2013, 02:43 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Unbound - 07-23-2013, 04:18 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 07-24-2013, 03:15 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Parsons - 08-11-2013, 01:54 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Monica - 08-12-2013, 04:13 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Parsons - 08-14-2013, 12:35 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-14-2013, 10:21 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-14-2013, 11:54 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Unbound - 07-24-2013, 03:45 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 07-25-2013, 01:03 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Unbound - 07-25-2013, 07:06 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 07-24-2013, 04:35 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 07-24-2013, 07:26 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 07-25-2013, 03:13 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by BrownEye - 07-25-2013, 07:46 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Guardian - 07-25-2013, 08:07 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 07-25-2013, 08:22 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by xise - 07-25-2013, 09:23 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Unbound - 07-25-2013, 08:44 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by reeay - 07-26-2013, 02:14 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Monica - 07-26-2013, 03:54 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 07-28-2013, 04:48 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Zachary - 07-29-2013, 12:24 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 07-26-2013, 11:11 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Spaced - 07-26-2013, 10:33 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 07-26-2013, 01:09 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 07-26-2013, 03:59 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by reeay - 07-26-2013, 01:05 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by BrownEye - 07-26-2013, 02:12 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 07-28-2013, 09:03 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 07-29-2013, 03:53 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 07-29-2013, 09:27 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 07-29-2013, 10:28 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 07-30-2013, 01:16 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Plenum - 07-30-2013, 01:26 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Monica - 08-02-2013, 09:02 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-10-2013, 11:02 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-10-2013, 11:53 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-10-2013, 12:03 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-08-2013, 04:27 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-08-2013, 07:44 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 08-09-2013, 02:01 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-09-2013, 03:33 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-10-2013, 01:47 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Monica - 08-10-2013, 02:18 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-12-2013, 03:42 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-13-2013, 11:40 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-11-2013, 12:51 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-11-2013, 01:23 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Monica - 08-12-2013, 04:03 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-12-2013, 12:01 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by BrownEye - 08-12-2013, 04:10 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by BrownEye - 08-12-2013, 05:10 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 08-12-2013, 09:57 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by caycegal - 08-12-2013, 02:42 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-12-2013, 07:02 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-13-2013, 02:33 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-13-2013, 04:04 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-13-2013, 10:04 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-14-2013, 02:23 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by BrownEye - 08-14-2013, 05:25 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-14-2013, 12:46 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-14-2013, 01:40 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-19-2013, 12:04 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-19-2013, 03:54 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-19-2013, 07:08 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Monica - 08-13-2013, 11:41 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by caycegal - 08-14-2013, 09:25 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 08-12-2013, 03:58 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-12-2013, 04:11 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-14-2013, 12:33 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-14-2013, 01:08 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-14-2013, 02:02 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-19-2013, 11:18 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-14-2013, 03:31 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-14-2013, 04:43 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-14-2013, 04:24 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 08-14-2013, 05:11 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-14-2013, 05:23 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Bring4th_Austin - 08-14-2013, 05:57 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-14-2013, 08:00 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 08-14-2013, 05:40 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-14-2013, 08:31 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-15-2013, 05:49 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-15-2013, 11:39 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-20-2013, 11:18 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-20-2013, 12:49 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-21-2013, 11:46 AM

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