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    Thread: to kill or not to kill? that is the question.


    Diana (Offline)

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    08-15-2013, 11:39 AM
    (08-15-2013, 05:49 AM)transiten Wrote: I'm soon taking the train to the Eastcost where we rescued the Sparrow Hawk. Some days prior to that i passed a small bird on the road wich was injured. I had some minutes of pain and compassion for the suffering bird. I found a big stone and held it high above my head and smashed it down. I felt an immense relief afterwords.

    A wildlife caretaker told me later that birds don't feel physical pain like we do...is that really true?

    I can tell you this. I have always had an affinity with animals. And at times I can empathize, or meld with them in some way. (I am not a "new-ager" and have no idea why I am like this.) One particular instance addresses your question:

    We found a lone baby bird (not brand new, but fully feathered) in the backyard not moving around. It looked stunned or as if it needed help. So we put it in a box and tried to feed it. It wouldn't eat, and I was worried about it. So that night I took it out of the box and laid down with it over my heart area (it just seemed like a good place to put it, and it hunkered down there and stayed). After about 45 minutes, my left shoulder developed a pain and it started to radiate down my arm. I thought it was because of the way my body was positioned, but I did not want to disturb the bird so I continued to lay there in spite of the pain. I finally put the little bird back in its box for the night.

    The next morning it was dead. My partner told me it had a broken left wing (he didn't know about the pain in my left arm). When he told me that, I "knew" that the pain I felt was connected to the bird's broken wing. I hoped that I had actually taken some of its pain away and processed it myself. I don't really know. Perhaps it was just empathy.

    So, I can't say for sure if birds feel pain the way we do. But certainly they feel pain.

    I don't mean to make you feel badly about what you did. Just addressing the question. I never trust cavalier statements such as: Fish have no nervous system so they don't feel any pain. I feel they are justifications for taking life when it's not needed to do so.

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    to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 07-23-2013, 08:50 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 07-23-2013, 10:27 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Jeremy - 07-23-2013, 05:37 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Plenum - 07-23-2013, 10:37 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 07-23-2013, 11:47 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Jade - 07-23-2013, 11:56 AM
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    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 07-23-2013, 02:43 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Unbound - 07-23-2013, 04:18 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 07-24-2013, 03:15 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Parsons - 08-11-2013, 01:54 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Monica - 08-12-2013, 04:13 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Parsons - 08-14-2013, 12:35 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-14-2013, 10:21 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-14-2013, 11:54 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Unbound - 07-24-2013, 03:45 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 07-25-2013, 01:03 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Unbound - 07-25-2013, 07:06 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 07-24-2013, 04:35 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 07-24-2013, 07:26 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 07-25-2013, 03:13 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by BrownEye - 07-25-2013, 07:46 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Guardian - 07-25-2013, 08:07 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 07-25-2013, 08:22 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by xise - 07-25-2013, 09:23 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Unbound - 07-25-2013, 08:44 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by reeay - 07-26-2013, 02:14 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Monica - 07-26-2013, 03:54 AM
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    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Zachary - 07-29-2013, 12:24 AM
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    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by reeay - 07-26-2013, 01:05 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by BrownEye - 07-26-2013, 02:12 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 07-28-2013, 09:03 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 07-29-2013, 03:53 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 07-29-2013, 09:27 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 07-29-2013, 10:28 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 07-30-2013, 01:16 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Plenum - 07-30-2013, 01:26 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Monica - 08-02-2013, 09:02 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-10-2013, 11:02 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-10-2013, 11:53 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-10-2013, 12:03 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-08-2013, 04:27 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-08-2013, 07:44 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Karl - 08-09-2013, 02:01 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-09-2013, 03:33 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-10-2013, 01:47 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Monica - 08-10-2013, 02:18 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-12-2013, 03:42 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-13-2013, 11:40 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-11-2013, 12:51 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-11-2013, 01:23 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Monica - 08-12-2013, 04:03 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-12-2013, 12:01 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by BrownEye - 08-12-2013, 04:10 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by BrownEye - 08-12-2013, 05:10 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 08-12-2013, 09:57 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by caycegal - 08-12-2013, 02:42 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-12-2013, 07:02 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-13-2013, 02:33 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-13-2013, 04:04 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-13-2013, 10:04 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-14-2013, 02:23 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by BrownEye - 08-14-2013, 05:25 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-14-2013, 12:46 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-14-2013, 01:40 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-19-2013, 12:04 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-19-2013, 03:54 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-19-2013, 07:08 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Monica - 08-13-2013, 11:41 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by caycegal - 08-14-2013, 09:25 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 08-12-2013, 03:58 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-12-2013, 04:11 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-14-2013, 12:33 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-14-2013, 01:08 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-14-2013, 02:02 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-19-2013, 11:18 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-14-2013, 03:31 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-14-2013, 04:43 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-14-2013, 04:24 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 08-14-2013, 05:11 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-14-2013, 05:23 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Bring4th_Austin - 08-14-2013, 05:57 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-14-2013, 08:00 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by AnthroHeart - 08-14-2013, 05:40 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Marc - 08-14-2013, 08:31 PM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by transiten - 08-15-2013, 05:49 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-15-2013, 11:39 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by isis - 08-20-2013, 11:18 AM
    RE: to kill or not to kill? that is the question. - by Diana - 08-20-2013, 12:49 PM
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