In regards to eating meat

[Monica]

What is your beef (oops mushroom) with the word extreme. I used a word extreme and you want to make this discussion about extreme.

Respectfully, you weren't talking about extreme sports. The word used wasn't extreme but extremist, which is commonly used to describe those who promote acts of violence. (And you cited your own examples of those who were violent, in your comparison to vegetarians.) To apply a word used to describe violent people, to someone who's trying to stop violence, made no sense to me, so it was interpreted as a judgment rather than an attempt to foster understanding.

If this is negative then your examples are what?

The examples that both Pablisimo and I gave were intended to be negative. How else could we make our point? The examples portrayed a very negative, offensive thing (the using of other beings to satisfy one's own desires) in an effort to communicate something positive (understanding of why vegetarians consider the slaughter of animals to be violence and therefore offensive).

Of course extreme words were used to describe extreme events (rape, murder, oppression, abuse, etc.).

But, the way I interpreted your words, when you compared those seeking to stop the slaughter of animals as extremists, you were using the word extremist to describe those who are trying to stop the extreme behavior.



I invite you to read and reread what I just said.

(Are there any other meat-eaters out there lurking? Does no one understand what Pablisimo and I were attempting to convey with our analogies? )

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So being a vegetarian is not extreme. Presenting it as the only option is extreme.

Please be fair. Neither Pablisimo nor I, nor any of the other vegetarians, ever stated that everyone needed to instantly become vegetarians by tomorrow.

We tried to explain that we see it as a logical spiritual progression, an ideal to aspire to. This is backed up by the Law of One, in which Ra states that in 4D a living food is eaten. (I don't think Ra meant eating cows alive and drinking their blood!)

If we're all heading for 4D, then the meat's gonna have to go at some point.

Has anyone ever considered the weight of all those MILLIONS of animals suffering each and every day...the impact of that on our planet and our evolution as a whole?

thefool, it seems that our views have struck a nerve. Could I offer a suggestion? How about everyone reading this thread all spend a few minutes tonight sending LOVE and LIGHT to everyone else who's been participating on this thread, and affirm the intention to actually FEEL the other point of view.

I'm disappointed that so many of our questions have gone unanswered. We've both tried to re-word the questions, hoping for some response, but to no avail. Words haven't been working too well. How about we try another approach? How about we all, right now, make a decision to forgive one another...and earnestly choose to at least understand, if not agree with, the point of view of our other-selves. It may appear to be in opposition, but remember, in unity all paradoxes are resolved.