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    09-03-2013, 08:48 PM (This post was last modified: 09-03-2013, 09:20 PM by zenmaster.)
    (09-03-2013, 08:08 PM)Tanner Wrote: How would you define completion in terms of endless process?
    There is no longer a "personal unconscious", for example.

    Also, there is no need for a "collective unconscious" as a resource. This is the actual awareness of the "Self" or "higher self". Not a conflated 3D feeling which suggests unity.

    Quote:36.1 Questioner: In previous communications you have spoken of the mind/body/spirit complex totality. Would you please give us a definition of the mind/body/spirit complex totality?

    Ra: I am Ra. There is a dimension in which time does not have sway. In this dimension, the mind/body/spirit in its eternal dance of the present may be seen in totality, and before the mind/body/spirit complex which then becomes a part of the social memory complex is willingly absorbed into the allness of the One Creator, the entity knows itself in its totality.

    This mind/body/spirit complex totality functions as, shall we say, a resource for what you perhaps would call the Higher Self. The Higher Self, in turn, is a resource for examining the distillations of third-density experience and programming further experience. This is also true of densities four, five, and six with the mind/body/spirit complex totality coming into consciousness in the course of seventh density.

    Jung's take on the steps of the individuation process here in 3D:
    Quote:Once ego-differentiation had been successfully achieved and the individual is securely anchored in the external world, Jung considered that a new task then arose for the second half of life - a return to, and conscious rediscovery of, the Self: individuation. Marie-Louise von Franz states that "The actual processes of individuation - the conscious coming-to-term with one's own inner center (psychic nucleus) or Self - generally begins with a wounding of the personality".[5] The ego reaches an impasse of one sort or another; and has to turn for help to what she termed "a sort of hidden regulating or directing tendency...[an] organizing center" in the personality: "Jung called this center the 'Self' and described it as the totality of the whole psyche, in order to distinguish it from the 'ego', which constitutes only a small part of the psyche".[6]

    Under the Self's guidance, a succession of archetypal images emerges,[7] gradually bringing their fragmentary aspects of the Self increasingly closer to its totality. The first to appear, and the closest to the ego, would be the shadow or personal unconscious - something which is at the same time the first representative of the total personality,[8] and which may indeed be at times conflated with the Self.[9] Next to appear would be the Anima and Animus, the soul-image, which again, by a kind of psychological short-cut, may be taken as identical to the whole Self.[10] Ideally however, the animus or anima comes to play a mediatory role between the ego and the Self.[11] The third main archetype to emerge is the Mana figure of the wise old man/woman[12] - a representative of the collective unconscious still closer to the Self.[13]

    Thereafter comes the archetype of the Self itself - the last point on the route to self-realization of individuation.[14] In Jung's words, "the Self...embraces ego-consciousness, shadow, anima, and collective unconscious in indeterminable extension. As a totality, the self is a coincidentia oppositorum; it is therefore bright and dark and yet neither".[15] Alternatively, he stated that "the Self is the total, timeless man...who stands for the mutual integration of conscious and unconscious".[16] Jung recognized many dream images as representing the self, including a stone, the world tree, an elephant, and the Christ.[17]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_in_Jungian_psychology

    Notice the conflation with Self (Ra's "higher self") that happens at each step. With the subject of this post related (allegorically) with the 2nd step.

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    Two souls permanently becoming one... - by Adonai One - 08-31-2013, 08:49 AM
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