02-09-2014, 11:58 PM
(02-09-2014, 11:28 PM)Folk-love Wrote:Because they lack an understanding of it which allows intentional control. Simple.(02-09-2014, 10:56 PM)zenmaster Wrote: No one has been able to consistently demonstrate a significant ESP effect when asked to do so under controlled conditions. This is out of billions of people.
This is what I don't understand. Considering how many people there are in the world and how frequently these phenomena occur, why have they failed time and time again under controlled conditions?
(02-09-2014, 11:28 PM)Folk-love Wrote: Is it because they are very difficult to reliably measure with the equipment we have now?Has nothing to do with equipment?
(02-09-2014, 11:28 PM)Folk-love Wrote: Do these things simply occur to erratically to be proven?Yes. If you can't reliably demonstrate a particular effect, then how do you explain it let alone prove it. Explanation of mechanism is lacking. So most tests focus on providing some compelling statistical evidence above a chance occurrence. However, the tests are usually constructed in a manner which does not rule out selection bias and therefore carry little to no weight in science. So you either need a reliable, repeatable test under controlled conditions or some kind of theoretical understanding supporting some hypothesis which can be tested. Does not exist and it's not a failure of the scientific method, or close-mindedness, or some other bullshit that new-agers tend to come up with, it's a failure of the experimenter's ability to show compelling evidence for the phenomena. It's difficult to adequately demonstrate something of which understanding is severely lacking in a manner which sheds any light on it.