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    Elfriede (Offline)

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    04-04-2014, 12:09 PM
    Robert Augustus Masters is a spiritual bypasser - admittedly so. As an unredeemed cult leader himself - he is now preceding with his third round.

    On March 2, 2014 i posted the flwg comment on this page http://batgap.com/?p=1281 due to a growing number of critical comments mostly from former students it was removed upon RAM's request on March 12, 2014.
    See: Retrieved comments disclosing the unredeemed past of cult leader Robert Augustus Masters
    http://de.spiritualwiki.org/Wiki/RobertA...sters#toc6

    In his interview with Rick Archer Robert Augustus Masters (RAM) said in minute 0:37:44, recorded August 1, 2011, posted August 4, 2011 [removed March 12, 2014]:
    "More and more spiritual teachers are being caught with [their] pants and halos down. [...] I do hold people responsible who get into this trouble [sexual exploitation with their teacher] with teachers by holding the teachers more responsible. [...] we may be a little frightened to say it because that person [the flawed teacher] has more authority. A healthy teacher [...] will get questioned more [...] which makes the possibility that this thing will turn into a cult less likely."

    Referring to above quote I wrote on RAM's Facebook thread on Dezember 2, 2012,
    "Robert, you were one of these unhealthy violent hierarchical teachers who bullied those who dared to challenge you. Only 5-MeO-DMT could knock you out. As long as you strip your past from your new narrative you might be setting up a cult all over again."

    NOTE: On his about and in his telecons with Ken Wilber (2006 onwards), Tami Simon, Michael Toms, Rick Archer, Craig Hamilton, and Terri Patten RAM carefully avoided to mention his community cult Xanthyros to keep the crimes hidden that were committed in there. RAM declared that his books produced by Xanthyros Foundation are out of print, also avoiding to mention the name that would possibly expose him.

    On December 28, 2011 Robert Augustus Masters had started a thread on his Google open Facebook page asking:
    "...when the group/community ... becomes too poor a fit? Do we ... challenge the very structuring and foundational assumptions (and cultic tendencies) of such a group/community, no matter how convincingly our protests might be summarized as "resistance" or "our problem" or mere reactivity?"

    After I cornered RAM and held him accountable to his own words, he apologized to me - to save face. Celebrating the "miracle", I've soon learned from those he had abused during his years as their cult leader that RAM's written apologies resulted from his fear of being prosecuted. He had failed to truly come clean with allegedly 99% of his former Xanthyros cult members including his wives and children.

    In his thread I asked RAM how he has reconciliated his own cult building (Xanthyros) and the members thereof? he replied,
    "By acknowledging that it was a cult, apologizing for the hurt I caused, and cutting through my cult-building leanings until they no longer had any pull for me."
    These words do not hold truth: in public RAM is hiding his past as a cult leader. Only under threat of prosecution he issued apologies - gestures without appropriate compensation.

    In answer to my question end of 2011, he announced his intention to write an article on his experiences as a cult leader. Two decades after the fall of his cult, such a rare avowal has not been released - most likely due to RAM's refusal to redeem its former members.

    I have tested RAM at four occasions, and he failed all tests.
    1. 1. I had been a working guest from abroad volunteering in his cult-commune Xanthyros in Vancouver for 4-5 weeks (March-Easter 1991).
      2. At my last meeting with RAM's shadow bearers I turned down his request to set up his German dependence.
      Instead of bidding me farewell, all three of them screamed at me bullying me for my decision.
      3. In a 17 page long feedback letter I had predicted that Xanthyros would fall apart (which did happen in 1994). No reply was issued to it.
      4. 20+ years later I met RAM for the second time on his Facebook "fan" page.
    Challenged as requested for his own "cultic tendencies", this is how RAM dealt with me:
    1. 1. He turned off the cult-related thread from Google view by transfering it to the less frequented Facebook rubric "Activities of friends" concealing the "activity" he had initiated.
      2. He deleted one of my critical posts, unwilling to "appreciate the dirt" (as suggested by him for those on the spiritual path).
      3. He informed me per PM about this deletion act and offered to handle the issue privately. No more answers were given.
      4. A year later - the discussion had continued (without him) for two weeks. Once he discovered that he deleted all my posts on this (still existing gutted) thread. http://de.spiritualwiki.org/Wiki/RobertA...sters#toc9
      5. As expected, he blocked me from posting, liking, or sharing anything from his Facebook page.
    Unwilling to account for his abuses as a cult leader, RAM reminds me of the wolf who reaped stones in his belly after the girl and the old woman were released from him. Rare it is to meet a wolf who may bear the stones sown in his belly gracefully.

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    Spiritual Bypassing - by zenmaster - 12-26-2013, 02:58 PM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by reeay - 12-26-2013, 04:42 PM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by Melissa - 12-26-2013, 04:57 PM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by Melissa - 01-05-2014, 09:57 AM
    10 Obstacles to Sane Spirituality… - by zenmaster - 01-16-2014, 09:06 PM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by Patrick - 01-16-2014, 09:41 PM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by zenmaster - 01-16-2014, 09:52 PM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by Patrick - 01-16-2014, 10:07 PM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by zenmaster - 01-16-2014, 11:00 PM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by Patrick - 01-17-2014, 10:25 PM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by zenmaster - 01-18-2014, 02:10 AM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by Patrick - 01-18-2014, 10:14 AM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by zenmaster - 01-18-2014, 01:13 PM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by reeay - 01-18-2014, 01:36 PM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by Elfriede - 04-04-2014, 12:09 PM
    RE: Spiritual Bypassing - by Melissa - 04-27-2014, 07:11 AM

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