Importance Of Bring4th

[Sagittarius]

No one, anywhere, is at that point?

No, but the majority of people are stuck in an obvious child-like state. Further, sub-collectives are created to reinforce that state through spiritual bypassing.

Were you expecting a perfect world?

Surprise!!!

Yes, but we're not quite to that point yet obviously.

You may not be, but believe you me, this does not apply to all. Sometimes odd things (well beyond the societal mind) just slip through the cracks, particularly for those who hold experience of being far beyond these local precincts.

What would be an example of this ? How is vague memory of experience beyond the local precinct accessing deeper roots of the mind, it's just another 3rd density experience that has the same meaning as this one.

Good question. One could argue it that way, that if you experience it in 3D, then it's a 3D experience.

I was speaking to the assertion that the developement of "value memes" was totally predictable because they are socially based.

So, let's say that one finds within oneself indicators of having traveled through higher negative densities. This can bring into play high torque forces that do not derive from society, but from higher developement in other arenas. Thus things become a tad less predictable and rather more "interesting."

I see what your saying, this just seems to me to be the penetration of the shadow self. No doubt a discipline of the disciple is to extend values to vague universal levels which can be represented and reinforced through time/space experiences of symbology.

But really how is this beyond our societal mind ? Is there really a difference between our society and all that have been including the "Venetians". If there is no time then wouldn't "we" be at the same point as every other 3rd density society at this point in time ? Why else would higher density subsume themselves to this point ?