"The experience of no need to find the necessary emolument."

[Unbound]

*smirk*

I avoid death, I avoid many potential catalysts. And I will continue to do so as this what provides me with the most peace and stability in my life. It is not in my desire to pursue working a job more than 20 hours a week for money that means nothing to me.

To be frank, if I really had to, I would live in nature without any social utilities. I don't need anything. I am inherently who I will be regardless of any social convention.

All that is inherent is desire to be one with who we are and this is fulfilled through an infinite amount of distortions of our choosing.

So do you work 20 hours a week then?

No, I do not. Ankh, why is working a required catalyst according to you?

It's not, but you're the one who said that you have a balanced acceptance of another catalyst, which imho is not a balanced acceptance at all since you are not exposed to this catalyst.

Money might mean nothing to you or me, but it's irrelevant since they are necessary to have if one wants to have food etc., unless, as you mentioned, one doesn't move into the woods, grow its own food and in other ways becomes self sufficient. I have some friends with this philosophy. And I have all respect for it. But when these friends don't get a job because of this philosophy but still live in cities and make other people pay for them, that is hypocracy, my friend. It's preaching without living it, and I have no respect for that. What they do is sit home and dream, while I work my ass off and pay high taxes, which pays for them doing nothing.

How are they making you do anything by not having a job? Why are they obligated to do things by living in a city with all things freely given to them? Why do they have conditions and expectations placed on them?

Why should people be obligated to do anything because of where they are? How is this justified?

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Melissa, I feel we are still within the realm of cognitive distortions and forum relationships, quite directly in fact.

Go live in the forest with some friends and you'll quickly see why society is built upon agreements made between individuals.

Now, if you disagree with the agreements, that is all well and good but it is pretty clear, in my opinion, that despite what the "status quo" ends up being from moment to moment there is an immense value in living cooperatively.

That being said, I have always wondered this myself. Especially the idea that I literally have to pay to occupy space and that I owe that pay to some government of individuals whom I have never met and perhaps never will. However, I do understand how I benefit my landlord in a direct way, how I benefit my employer and fellow employees and how I benefit the customers that I assist through my job. This is what my core desires are and always have been and that is to help, protect and teach others while also learning and appreciating them. I long ago used to believe that there were individuals/entities which eventually go too far in their control over others and there is a force created by the One which insures that no matter how extreme the dark or the light gets, neither can be absolute without disintegrating. To account for this, I also felt that I had been placed on this planet to be one of the people which assists in the "transition" of power away from these individuals.

I exist here with no responsibility but to myself, but, my friend, I am a Lord of the World, I am the planet and the planet is me and by conjunction I am all of you and all of you are part of me, so how can I pick and choose between my own desires and the desires of others? If I simply allow those who desire destruction and decomposition at the cost of growth and creation then where will the universe go from there? Perhaps the universe and infinity cannot be destroyed, but it could exist in indefinite darkness, no? Never being actualized saved for a few singular individuations forever seeking to usurp the universe and creation from the other.

In accepting myself, I realized I have to accept that I do not agree with the poisoning of innocence and the death of magic and the sacred. I do not agree with violence as a conclusion to the solving of the worlds' problems, and I do not see why it needs to be used against other humans at all. However, in that, I also accept and see in myself an urge and desire to fight, to crush and defeat (not necessarily literally/physically) those whom I see are simply so far in to their own creations of ego and desire that they no longer regard the others around them as meaningful.

Yet, am I really any better? I do not know for certain one way or the other but I do know I have both perceived myself as the sole Infinite One, and I have also perceived myself as one of an Infinite Many. I often do so with both simultaneously now and I don't always know how to reconcile that with my desires. Sometimes I feel like I should be desirelessness, but then I consider that and strive for it, I find I still have a nature, an expression of my being which is natural whether it is directed by purpose and drive or not. My sheer existence has an effect upon existence whether or not I am all of existence or but a small part that is holographically linked in to it.

I do know, however, that others are real. The illusion isn't that nothing is real, it is that we mis-perceive what is actually occurring in our perception and so lose out on the levels of reality where the final product of experience is actually crafted and put together.

So, why should I have a job? Why should I follow the laws? Why should I, in general, give a damn about the ideas of others in any regard? I say, it is because I am them and they are me and we are together here on this planet as one being and one entity and yet we are each an individual unto ourselves and that is such a useful thing and is the epitome of practicality as far as work on this level of detail in consciousness is concerned. I don't always enjoy my work, I am not even particularly fond of the company I work for but I love my boss and my co-workers and I love being able to help provide a home for my lover and I and I like being able to have money to give to and treat other people with and put towards causes because even if I, personally, do not see or understand why this 'money' thing is apparently so important, others do and since I believe assistance can only truly be given within the context of the needs of the individual receiving or asking or desiring for the assistance I deem it appropriate to properly acquaint myself with the workings of social environment on its many levels from top to bottom and this includes understanding the feeling and experience of using, earning and working for money and the reasons it is chosen by so many people as a medium of exchange.

Now that I am experiencing a more "normal" life I am becoming aware of the nature of the actual suffering and hardships that people are suffering from as opposed to my own philosophical projections and meanderings I justify their actions with on a regular basis.

Tl;Dr - I like to help people and seek every opportunity to do so (reasonably, can't forget my own red-ray) and I totally accept and understand that others may see that needs to be done differently or not at all and I can't really say I know what is right, but I do know that unless you go digging in the dirt you will never find any buried treasure. I don't work because I 'have' to, I work because I am learning what work really is, and isn't. I am also learning about people and what it is like living in society which is sort of an on-going project of mine I have been exploring for several years now. You can't learn about others through the mind or through books, only by interacting with others. IMO~

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