Dewey B. Larson and RST

[MisterRabbit]

Hey, yeah that pencil thing does help, although I'll have to think about it some more as to how it could apply to s/t and t/s.
So...what I think you're saying is that in t/s there is some sort of a 3time all-that-I-am-and-will-be, in a sense. But of course that can't be quite right, because the primal distortion is free will. So how am I to understand time, here? I mean...we normally think of time as the canvas on which history unfolds, which implies that future times are either set or branch off into infinite universes (I doubt it), but if time is being spoken of like some sort of active principle, and if we are to have free will and time is not "already" somewhere else, ie not set in stone, then how are we to begin understanding this? What does it really mean to say that in t/s my pieces are 3d in time, and then projected linearly onto s/t, when it's uncertain what those pieces will be doing even in the near future because of my freewill here and now? Something tells me this calls for a different notion of time altogether, not as some linear layout of events, but something totally new.

So, what is this time, anyway? I've always personally been of the opinion that time is simply a construct we create from our continual existence and ability to remember and imagine, and that the only thing that is real is the eternal now, this, right here. The past is memory, the future daydream. But assuming for a moment that this isn't necessarily true and that time is something that can be examined by physics, well just what is the RS notion of time? What kind of time CAN be 3D, anyway? Obviously not a linear one.

Well, forgive me, but I feel it may take many more examples and illustrations before I can really picture the reversal of space and time, a vector of time and a scalar of space. That's a duzy for my imagination. I really do want to, though.

Let's start by seeing what it means to "compress" space from 3 dimensions into one. Try this experiment, either in your mind, or in reality. Take a pencil and place its eraser on a sheet of paper at an angle to a fixed light source (the sun outside is great, since its light rays are parallel, but a good lamp inside will work fine too). Observe how the shadow cast by the pencil forms a 2-dimensional projection of the 3-D pencil (which is a 3D vector). Now consider the point of the pencil. The tip of the shadow represents the 2D projection on the paper of this 3-Space point. Consider that you could come up with an infinite number of different sized pencils that will cast the same shadow on the paper, but to do so you must point the tip of the larger pencils more toward the light, or shorter pencils more toward the paper, thus moving the point in 3 space.

If you now draw a line from the point of the shadow on the paper to the eraser, you have created a 2D vector on the paper. Now, lets arbitrarily draw a new line starting from the point where the eraser was, that is parallel with the right side of your sheet of paper. This new line will represent our single dimension (i.e., scalar) to hold the "compressed" point. You can now project the tip of the 2D vector (our 3D point projected onto 2D) onto that line by drawing a line from the tip of the vector, perpendicular to the new line that we just drew. The point at which the perpendicular line intersects the new line, is the 1D projection of the 2D point. Note that there are again an infinite number of 2D vectors that would project to the same point on this 1D (scalar) line. You have now "compressed" your 3 space point (or actually an infinite possible number of them) onto a single point on a scalar line.

This is precisely what is happening with matter in 3-Time. The points of matter that make up "you" (which are, by necessity close together in 3 space), are actually spread out in 3-Time, but come together when 3-Time is projected into the scalar of time that we call successive "now"s in s/t. Similarly, this is what happens with anti-matter in 3-Space, when it is projected as successive "here"s on scalar space in t/s.

Does this experiment help you visualize changing from 3-space to a scalar?

What do you think of the idea that t/s's tendency towards greater organization interacting with s/t may have something to do with not only the formation of life, but also attractors as well as archetypes?

This is an interesting abstraction, and one that I need to ponder more fully. Please allow me to table this idea for now.

Are you saying that your velocity, in the first example, would be zero because you wound up where you started from?

Yes. It's interesting to note that velocity has to be considered within a context of time and space. If your context is your morning commute until lunch time within the confines of your city, then you had both speed and velocity. If the context is the same space over the period of waking until bedtime, your velocity was zero (because you had not net relative displacement). If your context is waking until bedtime, but with the galaxy as your spacial context, then you had a significant velocity. As Einstein said, it's all relative.

IF so, I don't really understand why zig-zagging down a street would make a whole lot of difference in that respect

It doesn't make a whole lot, but 8mph velocity is certainly different than 25 mph speed. That was my only point.

Well, sorry I'm a bit slow with this kind of thing, and thanks for having patience. I do want to learn.

As do I. This process is really a great example of why Ra refers to it as teach/learning. Although I am attempting to teach (and the issues you are having are as much, if not more, a shortfall of my feeble attempts at teaching than your difficulty in learning), in doing so, I am learning the material better myself. So, I applaud your spirit and tenacity, and am perfectly happy to continue the discussion until things are resolved.

Love and Light (and pencil vectors),

3D Sunset

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whoops didn't mean to have all that quotage in there