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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Archetypes of Mind, Body, & Spirit The Male/Female Principles in the Archetypes

    Thread: The Male/Female Principles in the Archetypes


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    07-26-2014, 09:23 PM (This post was last modified: 07-26-2014, 11:16 PM by third-density-being.)
    Hello Plenum,

    (07-23-2014, 03:24 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: Fill in the following boxes please lol

    1) Magican ...... Male
    2) High Priestess .. Female
    3) Empress ...... Female
    4) Emperor ...... Male
    5) Hierophant ... Male
    6) Lovers ........ Female
    7) Chariot ..... Male

    8) Balance .... Female
    9) Wisdom .... Male
    10) Wheel .... Female
    11) Enchantress .. Female
    12) Hanged Man .. Male
    13) Death ....... ??????
    14) Alchemist .... ?????

    15) Devil ..... Male
    16) Tower ... Female
    17) Star .... Female
    18) Moon ... Female
    19) Sun ..... Male
    20) Judgement .... ?????
    21) Cosmos .... ?????

    22) The Choice ... Male

    thanks for your help!!

    I have to write that your questions are usually equally thoughtful as hard to answer Smile

    For couple days now I'm trying to find an answer to your question in The Law of One. Unfortunately there's no conclusive answer. Therefore I'll share what I was able to find / what I'm thinking of it.

    Firstly, regarding male/female polarity I've found this aid in understanding:

    Quote:(100.2)
    Ra: I am Ra. We shall. The concept of the pull towards mental polarity may
    well be examined in the light of what the student has already accreted
    concerning the nature of the conscious, exemplified by the male, and the
    unconscious, exemplified by the female
    .
    (...)

    So, that which has characteristics of "conscious" may be seen as "male polarization", and that which has characteristics of "unconscious" may be seen as "female polarization"

    This was said due to the analysis of card number six - "Transformation of the Mind". Still, I think it may be useful, as Archetypal Mind - all of its complex concepts, which includes mind, body and spirit - "resides" in the root of the mind:

    Quote:(77.13)
    Ra: I am Ra. You are correct in that you perceive the content of our prior
    statement with accuracy. You are incorrect in that you have no mention of
    the, shall we say, location of all of these concept complexes; that is, they
    exist within the roots of the mind and it is from this resource that their
    guiding influence and leitmotifs may be traced
    . You may further note that
    each foundation is itself not single but a complex of concepts. Furthermore,
    there are relationships betwixt mind, body, and spirit of the same location
    in octave, for instance: one, eight, fifteen, and relationships within each
    octave which are helpful in the pursuit of The Choice by the
    mind/body/spirit complex. The Logos under which these foundations stand
    is one of free will. Thusly the foundations may be seen to have unique facets
    and relationships for each mind/body/spirit complex. Only twenty-two,
    The Choice, is relatively fixed and single.


    Regarding Archetypes thirteen and fourteen, I fully agree with JustLikeYou. RA quite clearly stated in session 81, that Archetypes of the Body should be seen as mirror image of the activity of the mind. Therefore I would state same, that:

    13) Death ....... Male
    14) Alchemist .... Female


    Regarding interpretation of Archetype thirteen I've also found interesting quote:

    Quote:(81.13)
    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct and may be seen to be additionally correct in
    that each moment and certainly each diurnal period of the bodily
    incarnation offers death and rebirth to one which is attempting to use the
    catalyst which is offered it.

    I'm wondering if in case of other Archetypes, especially those of mind and spirit, there are also such "micro-cycles" - even if only symbolic.


    Now, regarding the most difficult Archetypes for me personally - those of the Spirit. Archetype twentieth - Judgement - "Transformation of the Spirit":

    Quote:(80.20)
    Ra: I am Ra. That which you call the Sarcophagus in your system may be
    seen to be the material world, if you will. This material world is transformed
    by the spirit into that which is infinite and eternal.
    The infinity of the spirit
    is an even greater realization than the infinity of consciousness, for
    consciousness which has been disciplined by will and faith is that
    consciousness which may contact intelligent infinity directly. There are
    many things which fall away in the many, many steps of adepthood. We, of
    Ra, still walk these steps and praise the one infinite Creator at each
    transformation.

    This I perceive as an action/reaching of the Spirit. Therefore I would say:

    20) Judgement .... Male

    In case of Archetype twenty one - Cosmos/The World - "Great Way of The Spirit:

    Quote:(80.21-22)
    Questioner: Then I would guess that the twenty-first archetype would
    represent contact with intelligent infinity. Is that correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct, although one may also see the reflection of this
    contact as well as the contact with intelligent energy which is the Universe
    or, as you have called it somewhat provincially, the World.

    Questioner: Then by this contact also with intelligent energy can you give
    me an example of what this would be for both the contact with intelligent
    infinity and the contact with intelligent energy? Could you give me an
    example of what type of experience this would result in, if that is at all
    possible?

    Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last query of this working of full length. We
    have discussed the possibilities of contact with intelligent energy, for this
    energy is the energy of the Logos, and thus it is the energy which heals,
    builds, removes, destroys, and transforms all other-selves as well as the self.


    The contact with intelligent infinity is most likely to produce an
    unspeakable joy in the entity experiencing such contact. If you wish to
    query in more detail upon this subject, we invite you to do so in another
    working. Is there a brief query before we close this working?

    Word/label contact I understand as reaching for that which awaits to be reached, therefore I would say:

    21) Cosmos .... Female

    Of course One can argue, that for contact to be possible, first its need to be initialized (as reaching activity). Nevertheless I think that fundamental "property" of Great Way of the Spirit is to "secure" this contact with infinity resources of an intelligent infinity (or in case of Logoi, intelligent energy).


    Last card is most difficult to examine in context of male/female polarization. I think most useful are Ra's Words regarding Choice itself, as main "Work" of this density:

    Quote:(76.16)
    Questioner: Third density, then, compared to the rest of the densities, all of
    them, is nothing but a uniquely short period of what we consider to be time
    and is for the purpose of this choice.

    Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is precisely correct. The prelude to choice must
    encompass the laying of the foundation, the establishment of the illusion
    and the viability of that which can be made spiritually viable. The
    remainder of the densities is continuous refining of the choice. This also is
    greatly lengthened, as you would use the term. The choice is, as you put it,
    the work of a moment but is the axis upon which the creation turns.

    So, on the one hand, Choice is something that has to be actively done throughout all incarnations of third density. On the other hand, the very same Choice is later a base (as a resource) of "Work" in all higher densities of this Octave. Therefore I would say that twenty second card has both connotation - as well male as female. It all depends on the point of One's view. Thus:

    22) The Choice ... Male/Female

    But, since We are considering third density point of view, I think it is safe to say that last card has a male polarization.


    I would like to underline, that all above is a pure theory for me, as I haven't started proper work with Archetypes, yet. Despite that, I hope You will find in my words some value for your own Work.

    Take Care
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    The Male/Female Principles in the Archetypes - by Plenum - 07-23-2014, 03:24 PM
    RE: The Male/Female Principles in the Archetypes - by JustLikeYou - 07-23-2014, 07:39 PM
    RE: The Male/Female Principles in the Archetypes - by third-density-being - 07-26-2014, 09:23 PM
    RE: The Male/Female Principles in the Archetypes - by ricdaw - 08-02-2014, 11:44 PM
    RE: The Male/Female Principles in the Archetypes - by third-density-being - 07-09-2015, 03:12 PM
    RE: The Male/Female Principles in the Archetypes - by JustLikeYou - 07-12-2015, 04:31 PM
    RE: The Male/Female Principles in the Archetypes - by third-density-being - 07-13-2015, 05:44 PM
    RE: The Male/Female Principles in the Archetypes - by ricdaw - 08-11-2015, 04:51 PM
    RE: The Male/Female Principles in the Archetypes - by Monica - 08-10-2015, 05:49 PM

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