08-10-2014, 08:49 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-10-2014, 09:04 PM by AnthroHeart.)
(08-10-2014, 12:38 AM)anagogy Wrote:(08-09-2014, 12:57 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: It's not possible to be in one place for all eternity is it? I don't even think we can hold the same level of awareness for eternity.
No, change is the only constant. But change only occurs below 8th density. 8th density is changeless in my opinion.
Octaves are like islands within the 8th density that allow for the experience of the illusion of change.
(08-09-2014, 04:12 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: All I know is I don't want to be stagnant for any measurable long time. Certainly not for an eternity.
But I don't think I will be. Same as I won't be in 3D forever.
It makes me think about the density of foreverness. Is it really forever?
In 7th density, you see the entire octave (our current island of densities) in its completeness. The momentum of time, which gives us our inevitable vector forward through the spiritual exercise of "knowing ourselves" ceases. This means, time stops. You are no longer at its mercy. The movement, at that point, is completely conscious and voluntary, whereas before, it was to varying degrees (depending on your density level) involuntary.
So, in that particular sense, it is forever. Because movement through time is no longer involuntary, to any degree whatsoever.
(08-10-2014, 07:43 PM)anagogy Wrote:(08-09-2014, 04:20 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: 7th density is timeless according to Ra. But if it teaches the Law of Foreverness, is it forever because it is simultaneous in nature, and not linear time? Time becomes circular, or spiral.
How can it teach the Law of Foreverness, and yet you can graduate from there and reach 8D?
If 7D is a black hole as Ra says, how do you ever "escape" it to reach 8D?
Disclaimer: these are my opinions based on my intuition, and spiritual study.
7D is not a black hole.
7D is full awareness of the current octave of densities. It is successfully merging with the universal Logos.
7D is the highest expression of mind, yet lowest expression of matter. 1D is the lowest expression of mind, yet highest expression of matter.
The blackhole that is apparent in 3rd density physical is actually energy escaping our octave entirely. In other words, it is energy that is moving into 8th density infinity.
The reason why I bring up the mind thing, is because movement through time is only caused by attachment to matter. When you have become the universal Logos, you are no longer subject to time, and exist purely in time/space, which is like pure mind.
You are at your full creative control at this level. So the choice to leave this octave of densities is a simple matter of electing to do so, and then you are presented with a (relatively) blank canvas with which to paint the next octave of densities.
(08-09-2014, 06:32 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I'm wondering if identity is illusion. When you become all that is, your awareness is Creator's awareness.
Nothing is lost. So do you really lose something that was illusory?
Or loss of identity is only in 7D? And then you regain your identity in the next Octave?
All identity is the result of distortion, illusion, separation, or whatever you want to call it. It's all the same thing. Nothing is lost because all possible combinations of energy and matter exist within the one infinite creator. It's like a bunch of legos. You can take all the legos apart, but the legos are still there afterwards. You could, if you wanted, completely rebuild what you took apart. All the ingredients are there, and they are there for all eternity. You are all possible combinations of these things.
Even the Logos is made of these proverbial legos (since the creation is the Logos). Now you are more like the container for all these Legos. That is your true, and eternal identity (this is 8th density consciousness). When you move to the next octave of densities, you don't completely take apart all your legos, you keep some of the configurations (those that pleased you). These are the refinements on the "One Original Thought". You could, at any moment completely take them apart however.
It's all for fun anyway.