In regards to eating meat

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Another note: the topic is judgemental. Thus you are judging others.

Further, to insinuate that anyone who is an omnivore is STS is highly judgemental. I wish you well.

discerning negative/positive polarizing aspects of life, identifying them, analyzing them and counseling each other as to their effects and what should be done is something good.

if the opposite has been true, we would need to drop all talk about everything regard to polarization, service, purity and then just accept everything as they are, and do practically nothing. there would be no need for Ra material. there would be no need for new age or new age channelings.

Eventually, all Beings reach a point where eating as a form of energy transferance becomes rather primative. As the vibration rises the need for physical sustenance is nullified and replaced with gaining energy from that which is around you-- no eating just energizing.

the concept of feeding does not change. an entity which still has the mental/behavioral habit of being able to accept destruction of another entity and consuming its body for energy, can exhibit similar mindset in higher dimensions. since in the higher densities, thoughts become things and actions far faster than a heavy lower density, an entity which can accept in such thoughts becomes a danger to its environment. think, and it happens.

therefore, purity of thought and nonharmfulness as well as the amount of service needs to increase as densities go by.

There are beings on this planet that are highly STO and they do consume Fish and other mammals as part of their diet: Dolphins and toothed Whales.

dolphins and whales are 3rd density, some of them probably harvestable to 4th. they are as advanced as the human society on the face of this planet, even if they are living more in compliance with the current nature of the planet. that doesnt make them an example to be followed in regard to spiritual advancedness.

That is a very key point about direction. It's very significant that graduation to 4D only requires 51% STO. Which leads me to surmise: What happens in 4D? Is the entity refined further in its polarity? Is 100% reached? Or does a 4D entity graduate to 5D with the same percentage?

I would think that the qualities needed for graduation to 4D are further refined in 4D, at the end of which time the soul is ready to take on new lessons in preparation for 5D.

it is highly probable that due to increasing empathy and transparency of thought, the entities will become more sensitive to other entities, and change their behavior accordingly, become less and less harmful, coarse as time goes by, and more and more giving.

but, if we look into what Ra says, despite there is great positive polarity (99% ? i dont remember) on 4d graduation, the graduation actually requires wisdom, ie, understanding of the dance of life.

Even those who eat animals have agreed on this point. The question becomes, then, at what point, and for what reasons, does that action of 'leaving behind' occur? What is the value of reaching to that point consciously? That is something each will have to decide for themselves.

this is an important point.

for most of the wanderers on this planet, that time may have already long past. some of them might have needed to get past that point even earlier in their lives.

one should never let go of the understanding of thoughts, intentions are solid concepts in time/space. they have immediate consequences. and anything that changes in time/space affects the space/time eventually.

intent and purity is paramount. accepting and maintaining any facet of the brutal, carnivorous and vile nature of the planetary aspect, participating in it, and keeping it inside your spiritual domain will inevitably have its consequences. it can open possibilities for all kinds of heavy, negative thought patterns to get caught in one's mind, it can also allow possibilities for negative natured thought forms to get into energy fields of the individual much easier. all of these have consequences.

Agreed, as regards our individual progress. However, here is another factor to consider: our awareness of Earth's plight during this difficult transition. Of immediate relevance, in my opinion, is what impact our choices have on the planet as a whole, at this particular nexus.

Many of us are actively meditating for the benefit of the planet, working to heal the wounds, etc. Because many have consciously chosen this service, I am interested in exploring the efficiency of such service, in light of what I see as a gaping contradiction.

To use an analogy: It seems to me like putting a band-aid on a would that is gushing blood. Wouldn't it make more sense to stop the bleeding first?

So many Lightworkers are absolutely devoted to being of service, in regards to healing the Earth. Would this service not be much more effective, if the massive, indeed massive, amount of 2D suffering were lessened?

So, while I do agree with you that, in regards to our soul progress, I am interested in exploring these concepts as they apply to any planet, anytime, anywhere. At the same time, I am also interested in exploring how these principles apply to our current planetary plight.

What I am not interested in, personally, is discussing individual reasons for having this or that diet. I'd rather focus on what we can do to help the planet heal, and your point about Earth's 2nd chakra really leaped out at me.

first step to this could be to refuse ripping off the flesh of this planet and consuming it for sustenance - for, the animals on this planet as well as plants, are evolved from this planet's 1d material, they are natives of earth. let me put it in a spiritual context :

If the earth is mother, and it is, eating animals is little different than eating her flesh. However, eating fruits is akin to feeding off her breast, if you pardon the misnomer. actually, there is nothing to pardon about this analogy, for the latter particular concept is probably one of the most holistic aspects of this octave.

Can you define discrete entity? and focus generating entity?

imagine the 1st density, red ray, materials. that density is the latter stages of 8th density of last octave, (as Ra says) and therefore they are more in unison with infinity. and therefore, probably more uniform. same probably goes for the latter parts of 8d in this octave.

these parts of existence, from what i understand, are not as individualized like the other parts of the existence. they are more wholly 'the creator' than you and me, if you will.

as we go towards the middle of the octave, it seems, individualization increases. early 2d creatures act on their own, move about independently of the 1d existence, and as we go higher in 2d, the individualization increases, with 2d entity increasingly exhibiting certain character, despite belonging to a certain group consciousness. naturally, this group consciousness is a more individualized, characterized portion of infinity, when compared to the 1d existence. also, being conscious of being a separate entity increases as we go by the ladder towards end of 2d. (actually one can easily say that different characteristics also exist in 1d too, some manifest as gaseous materials, some manifest as liquid, solid, with each subdivision having innumerable different material manifestations of different character). after a certain point in 2d, character becomes permanent and totally individual in the 2d entity, and that entity becomes totally self aware, and becomes a mind/body/spirit complex instead of a mind/spirit occupying a body. then, we have a 3d entity.

the following densities see the entity go more and more in unison with the infinity again, culminating in the return to infinity (possibly) at the end of 7d. in the octave this parabole occurs (separating from infinity, becoming an entity and then going back to infinity again), a different character, an aspect of the infinity is seen and learned in the persona of that entity.

as the individualization rises, entities act more like independent focuses, independent generators, co creators than an unified sea of consciousness it seems. compare your own mind/body/spirit complex to the consciousness that manifests in the chair under you. thus, the burden/weight (karma, if you will, tho it is not similar) of destroying any higher focus becomes more burdensome, damaging than any lower focus. actually, if you destroy many focuses in very low order, you may still harm the creation in the same way too. (imagine you destroyed a seafull of bacteria)

so, with that logic, it is much better to sustain on 1d material than sustaining on higher d material, directly.

basically, if we ate sand or air, and processed it to survive, we would be harming the infinity much less, and destroying the individualization of the infinity much less. if we breathed and consumed gases, we would be doing that even less, and actually be doing more of a service, since 1d needs to be moved, changed about to evolve and invidiualize.

Trees come to mind. plant life comes to mind. They are basically doing this, even if they are doing it with rather organic, higher order material in 1d. However, their sustenance is much more divine than ours due to above rationalization, and, not surprisingly, plant life are almost entirely androgynous, each individual being both male, and female. that means, they are manifesting much more in balance than us, and therefore, probably in much more direct and maximum contact at any given point in their development. if one thinks about the properties of plant life, what effects/feelings does this plant life have on us, or give us, the situation becomes even more evident.

thus, the basic bottom line is ; it is good to sustain on material closer to 1d than to attempt destroying more individualized portions of infinity.