(10-16-2014, 03:37 AM)Unbound Wrote: From the perspective of the creature, once it dies its body is cast aside as a shell. This shell contains the "memory" of the life of its body. The mind and spirit move on to work with a new body. In my understanding, what is left behind is no longer the animal, it is residue or remnants of a memory of what the animal once was. It is an imprint left behind as an artifact in the world of motion and change.
What normally happens to this body? Generally it decomposes, it is eaten by earthen creatures of various forms from bacteria to birds and is thus consumed again by the earth itself.
So then we talk about energy and how the body of the animal has the energy or at least the signature of the experiences of the animal as it lived in life, locked inside its cells and its materials. We say if the animal experienced pain and suffering then that is left behind in the body of the creature, just the same as if it experience joy. However, we must always remember that what is left behind is a memory, as once the creature leaves it shell behind it is moving on to a new body, new experience and new field of growth.
Thus, in fact, I see it that I have no influence over the soul of the animal once it dies,
Why not? The physical body is just clothing, cast aside. We are all ONE. Why not connect with the souls of the animals?
(10-16-2014, 03:37 AM)Unbound Wrote: it has already transitioned on to a new path. Should it need healing, it will immediately be guided to do so by its higher density attendants.
Now, that being said, what then is the significance of eating the body of the creature? Well it can be looked at from numerous perspectives but the one I want to bring attention to is one of communion.
It isn't necessary to eat the discarded flesh in order to commune with the spirit.
(10-16-2014, 03:37 AM)Unbound Wrote: There is the idea that we, by eating the body of the creature, then "take on" or take in to ourselves all that the creature experiences and whatever memory is left attached to its body. We therefore do not take responsibility for the soul or continuous development of the being, they are doing that on their own, but rather we take on the essence of the life that was lived.
Now, don't get me wrong, I do agree with you that individuals who eat much of this without any knowledge or effort of transmutation will indeed simply "absorb" those energies and since they will not know how or be unable to transmute them (which means to raise their vibration, or to refine the energies so they can work in higher and higher centers). This can most certainly make one sick and even depressed over time (unless they are the type of being who enjoys eating those kinds of emotions).
Then, to the topic of transmutation there are techniques. The first is to treat the matter as it is, as raw material, unattached to any mind (other than the ALL of course). Thus, it is organized and brought in to order through blessing. (I believe that the effects Emoto has discovered regarding water is actually universal for all matter, just that water is a sensitive medium for receiving thought.) Then the experiences brought in to the self are faced and embraced. Thus, it would then entail putting oneself in the position of the animal, experiencing that, and accepting the essence of the experience. Once this has been done many times it becomes pretty quick to do.
Now, this is the fulcrum of the point and what I have been trying to express. You can't "save" an animal after it is dead, nor can you alleviate its suffering, it has already experienced those things.
No, but why wait until after it's dead? We CAN alleviate its suffering by not participating in the cause of the suffering, and raising awareness of others to do the same.
(10-16-2014, 03:37 AM)Unbound Wrote: Also, since the actual entity has moved on, there isn't really any "healing" you can do for it per se, short of, of course, sending love, light and healing to the entity itself, but this is not the same as dealing with the body. This is why when I talk about these things I put the emphasis on the humans, because once the animal is dead and its shell is left behind, the question comes to how it influences the on-going life around it.
We mostly understand that there is a planetary mind that is the collective of all minds on the planet as well as maybe being a thing in itself. Thus, we understand that the memory of every body also is part of the collective mind. The Earth "cleanses" and purifies energy by returning it to a "neutral" state. Now while this is effective for emotional energy and such that results from trauma, it doesn't actually change the existence of the thoughts of pain in the mind of the planet.
The act of eating is a ritual act. The act of eating is a ritual which brings one in to "oneness" with whatever is being ingested. Therefore, eating meat is a ritual act which puts one in contact with the animal element of the collective mind, just as eating plants puts on in contact with the plant element of the collective mind.
One who is not aware of this will most likely just exchange with that mind the aspects of the animal which are locked within the body, however, by transmuting the energies which are locked in the body, it enables you to evoke a more advanced portion of that animal element of the collective mind. Thus, through consumption, transmutation and contact one is able to call forth the beings that tend to the animal kingdom, also known as devas. Through this, one is then able to heal the memory locked in the collective mind by "releasing" it from its lower vibrational pattern, remembering that our own minds are also part of the collective mind and thus it is directly relevant to both ourselves and the animals to do this kind of healing.
Thus, therefore, although the Earth is easily able to transmute the raw energies, physical and emotional, it is through mental transmutation that the ideas associated with the animals themselves are evolved.
Thus, in effect, the work of transmutation in this context is intended towards multiple effects:
1. Healing of the planetary mind through the transmutation of memories
2. Empowerment of the animal kingdom by contacting higher levels of animal consciousness which are the evoked in to the world and thus "fed back" to all other animals, thus where one suffered, many may benefit through the increased chance for self-awareness
3. The modification of the human element of the planetary mind by induction, or rather, by transmuting ideas it becomes more available to the average human, and thus with this I project out the essence of honour, sacredness, respect and love
4. The opportunity for higher animal consciousness to have its expression through a conduit
5. The overall raising of consciousness of the planet by self-aware acts and processes intended for communion
6. The opportunity to seed forgiveness in to the planetary mind, and find forgiveness in the self
So you see, I don't do it "for myself" because the benefit it has for me personally is barely relevant, but neither do I do it "for the animal" because it doesn't really directly affect the animal either, what I do it for is the planetary mind. The work of transmutation is bigger than me or the animal, it is about all of us.
Now, you might ask, why does it require the act of eating in order to do this transmutation? The answer is because eating itself is a gateway, it is a ritualistic act, it causes a change in consciousness. I do it consciously so that it may become more available as a possibility in the collective mind for there to be consciousness while eating.
You asked, why not just leave it the way it is, isn't it controlling to try and "transmute" the lives of others?
Consider the fact that I do the exact same things and the same processes for all plants that I eat. Therefore, it is really not anyone else I am influencing, only myself, directly. Thus, to change the self is to change the world around you. Maybe one day, once humans have become more conscious of their activities it will be easy and obvious to say that we shouldn't kill animals for food, but I also don't expect that to happen over night. Rather, instead, there are still many people who eat meat, and the vast majority do it unconsciously and without appreciation.
The ideal is that there should be respect and compassion. Perhaps in time we don't need such methods of gaining sustenance, but at the moment, as it stands, there are many whom still are ingrained in those modes. From my perspective, it isn't realistic at this point in time to expect that the entire world is suddenly just going to go vegan, regardless of whatever evidence there may be for its benefits. This is because there is an idea locked in the collective mind that still lacks respect and appreciation for that which is given by other creatures.
Thus, my work is to try and transmute this idea, to call to a higher awareness and bring it in to the collective consciousness. I do this through eating meat as a form of sympathetic magic in that I believe that by eating with love, appreciation, compassion and transmutation, I am essentially providing a catalyst, sending a signal out in to the world, for others to do the same.
So while sure, we all want a world without suffering, I believe there are actually steps to that process and it's not going to happen "cold-turkey". At this point in time, it appears to me to be more effective and conducive to the overall mentality of the planet to address the lack of love and appreciation for what is given by offering out an idea to the collective mind that may be more and more grasped by any whom may be willing to perceive it.
I honestly do not believe that eating vegetarian will make others be nicer to animals, however, I do believe that by holding in my mind and my heart a more respectful, appreciative and compassionate attitude towards consumption the idea of a world in which there is less suffering becomes a more real possibility as it becomes a more prominent idea in the collective mind of humans.
In a nutshell, I see myself as an extension of the planet, thus, I am just fulfilling a function that the planet itself has. The Earth transmutes things back in to their natural materials, raw energies, through its purpose as an earthen body. We are a refinement of this purpose, as we are able to not only transmute things back to their natural state, we are actually capable of evolving them.
Thus, transmutation is not for my benefit or the benefit of the animal directly, but rather is meant to be directly beneficial to the mind of the planet itself by "resolving" conflict and chaos held within its memory. It is memory that is healed through this method, not the suffering that has occurred or the entity that the animal truly is nor even myself, but indirectly all are positively affected by the resolution and healing of dissonance in the planetary mind.
That seems like an awful lot of trouble to go though, to justify eating the animal's flesh. It seems much more efficient to me to simply not contribute to the suffering in the first place.
(10-16-2014, 03:37 AM)Unbound Wrote: Also, protip: Violence isn't STS or STO and a "world without violence" would be all but empty and stagnant. To ignore the reality of violence is to severely cripple the red-ray. Violence plays a very important role in the balancing of the eco-system, so if some behaviour is to be vilified it should be a little more specific than "violence".
You seem to be confusing red-ray power/energy with STS controlling/harming other entities. It isn't necessary to be violent, to have vibrant red-ray energy.
(10-16-2014, 05:57 AM)Steppenwolf Wrote: I refuse to believe that kosher/halal is in anyway a proper ritual or transmutation of any energy, it is the most horrific way to slaughter an animal.
I agree, except as an STS ritual. It is a black magick ritual, continuing the STS 'Yahweh' influence.
(10-16-2014, 04:00 PM)Matt1 Wrote:
I don't know who that guy is, but he clearly doesn't know the meaning of the word vegan. It's an excellent example of why I don't follow any 'guru'. This guy is still inhabiting a human body, and clearly still has his own biases, distortions, blind spots, and justifications just like everyone else.