(02-06-2015, 05:18 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: sure, I can understand your stance. Actually, this interaction has proven quite fruitful for me, as it's helped me clarify my own position and understanding regards the conspiracy world. I did spend a lot of time there - not enough to become an expert in any particular area - but enough to see all the different roots. I actually had a paid membership for Coast to Coast Radio for two years, so I could download and listen to the shows whenever I wanted.
If I could provide some backstory - and this is pertinent as there is another thread currently active regards it - it was the 9/11 videos and post-analysis which proved to be the thing that totally unravelled any faith that I had in government/society/politics/media. This came a few years after the event itself, as streaming video on the internet did not arrive until a few years later (I'm referring to google video and youtube here in 2005), but I did read about the conspiracy viewpoint in Nexus magazine (the hole in the Pentagon wall especially), and was also cognizant of the New World Order from David Icke and his early books - in particular, his And the Truth Shall Set you Free (1995) which I read in the late 90's left me somewhat slack-jawed and in disbelief in parts. And yet, he had tabled names and organizations, and so it planted the ideas in my mind, even back then.
There are things in the conspiracy field which can shake us from our complacence, and even perhaps laziness. There is more going on in this world than the nightly news lets on. But all I can say, speaking purely personally here - as I won't try to over-generalise - is that it doesn't offer me any nourishment at present. It just has no charge for me. I am vegetarian, and this is not because of an aversion to meat, but rather, that one day 2 years ago, it just clicked as a new mode of experience for me. Meat no longer had any experiential value to me (not knocking meat). I can say that somewhere along the line, maybe a few years after getting into the Law of One, and really immersing myself in the archetypes, which I considered gold at the time, the conspiracy angle also fell away as a source of nourishment for me.
But if it's true that it still works for others, then I shouldn't deride it. I can see how that was a distortion that you exposed, and that I can see more clearly now (and hopefully balanced).
cheers buddy.
Plenum
I think it's part of the awakening process. I see a lot of value in the masses waking up...and then moving beyond it. Acceptance is the key that opens the door to transmutation. But before we can open that door, we must know what it is that we are accepting. How can the world be transformed when most people don't even know what's going on?
The act of opening one's mind to the truth of 911 or some other non-mainstream truth, could be akin to using psychoactive drugs, in terms of the breakthrough in consciousness. So there is indeed value in providing information, when appropriate, to people who are unaware of such things.
It's important to also encourage a positive spin. This is something David Wilcock is very good at. He might not always be accurate, but I appreciate that he says "Here's the storm...but then we'll see rainbows!" unlike David Icke who seems very defeatist, in my perception.
I truly believe in multiple realities. Waking up is important, but then where do we go from there? At each point, we have multiple timelines to choose from, at this nexus.
Burying one's head in the sand, or just being nonchalant about it, and getting caught up in these things to the point of paranoia, are 2 extremes. We are other-selves to other selves. They see us in their mirrors. We have a role to play. Just assuming that everyone will wake up on their own, and that we have nothing to do with it, is to potentially miss an opportunity to be of service. Why are we incarnate right now, at this nexus? It only to focus on self, then what's the point? Are we not all interconnected? Do we not all have a role to play in the planet's unfolding? Do we really want to just sit back and eat popcorn as though watching a movie? Or are we active participants on this stage?
At the same time, if we become obsessed with what's going on behind the scenes, then we only give it power. Surely there is a sweet spot somewhere? Surely there is value in waking up and engaging in activism to help make the world a better place, and helping others awaken, without getting caught up in fear and negativity?
I advocate waking up, encouraging others to wake up, while at the same time, working for positive change and believing that we CAN create a positive outcome.