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    Thread: "this information will, shall we say, make sense" - Interpretations


    Steppingfeet (Offline)

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    03-10-2015, 10:49 AM
    (02-20-2015, 02:22 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Part of me thinks, how would a third-density native, who came up from second density and whose soul evolution has not moved beyond the boundary of third density, recognize these descriptions of higher densities and their workings?


    (02-28-2015, 05:40 AM)Conifer16 Wrote: My thoughts below

    So a 3d density native would indeed only conceivably have experience from 3d density and below. And you are asking how a person at this stage might recognize these ideas if they hadn't already encountered them as a wanderer. 

    And I was wondering if it might not be due to the fact that at the deepest level we are all the Creator? And thus all experience that has, is, and will happen has been experienced by every single one of us already.  

    Yes we have a veil that clouds our sense of memory and connection with all that is. And this veil likely does a really good job at clouding our memories and sense of connection. 

    But might it be possible that being the Creator brings with it some automatic and very very very deep level understanding and "knowing"? Such that when encountering information like that of the Law of One, a 3d density native whom hasn't yet moved past 3d density this go around, might be able to recognize some inner and pure "truth" to the matter. 

    Which might manifest as a simple feeling that TLOO just "makes sense".

    That is a salient point and question, Conifer16. I really don't have a good answer, but I'd love to examine the question further.

    In corroborating your supposition (that I bolded in your text above), Ra says in 1.7 that, "You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One."

    So when we as third-density entities (wanderers or not) are presented with seemingly distant aspects of ourselves, whether we hear information transmitted from the sixth density, or one hundred octaves from now, shouldn't we see reflections of our selves in some way?

    Maybe with sufficient awareness of the unity of all things, this would indeed be the case.

    Once awakened to the infinite nature of things, all forms should reflect and reveal the undergirding One Creator, whether those forms be of this particular illusion or the inner planes of the second density of the octave prior to our own. Once the entity is awakened to unity, there is absolutely nothing that comes before his purview that is not recognized as some manifestation of the Creator, as some aspect of the self.

    So maybe it is a measure of the entity's development that they can recognize material from planes beyond their own. Because, like you were saying, we're all one, we are all things.

    * * * * * * *

    But at the same time, let's say that wanderers on this planet (who recognize sixth-density teaching (this is scientifically proven)), were presented with material from the octave beyond this one. Having not quite personally experienced the next octave (whatever "personally" means in this context), would we recognize the teaching and the illusions of the next octave?

    Ra describes "fundamental teachings of all planes of existence" as including unity, love, light, and joy, so surely we would recognize those core components of the succeeding octave, but would anything else make sense to us? Could it even be communicated?

    My thought is that we wouldn't be able to understand. If we received valid information from the next octave, we wouldn't have the "aha!" moment that the wanderer typically does upon opening the Law of One books. We would only respond with a "WTF?" bubble hovering inches above our heads because we haven't personally experienced the next octave - thus we have nothing in our personal memory/history that would remind us of that.



    Consider this Q&A:

    Quote:81.16 Questioner: Ra states that it has knowledge of only this octave, but it seems that Ra has complete knowledge of this octave.


    Can you tell me why this is?

    Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, we do not have complete knowledge of this octave. There are portions of the seventh density which, although described to us by our teachers, remain mysterious. Secondly, we have experienced a great deal of the available refining catalyst of this octave, and our teachers have worked with us most carefully that we may be one with all, that in turn our eventual returning to the great allness of creation shall be complete.

    Those of Ra, like us, are "every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation". Yet, despite the fact of all facts that they are, indeed, every thing and every being, knowledge beyond their own plane remains somewhat off-limits until such time that they personally experience that subsequent stage. (Whatever "time" means in this context.)

    * * * * * * *

    You wrote: "Yes we have a veil that clouds our sense of memory and connection with all that is. And this veil likely does a really good job at clouding our memories and sense of connection."

    Maybe that's it - maybe it's the veil that obscures both the seeming past and the seeming future from our vision. Or maybe it is more deeply a function of the First Distortion: the Creator wished to know itself.


    I can't quite intellectually reach where the following quote seems to be pointing. I can only highlight it as a seed for contemplation of your question:

    Quote:13.12 Questioner: Could you tell me how intelligent infinity became, shall we say (I’m having difficulty with some of the language), how intelligent infinity became individualized from itself?


    Ra: I am Ra. This is an appropriate question.

    The intelligent infinity discerned a concept. This concept was discerned due to freedom of will of awareness. This concept was finity. This was the first and primal paradox or distortion of the Law of One. Thus the one intelligent infinity invested itself in an exploration of many-ness.

    Due to the infinite possibilities of intelligent infinity there is no ending to many-ness. The exploration, thus, is free to continue infinitely in an eternal present.

    With love and light - GLB

    Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi
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