That last question in the last session was rushed. It didn't give the futuristic Earth SMC of Xandria much of a chance to explain and defend their position.
I don't know if Quo has been asked this question but if so would someone who knows give a link or date of session?
The channel groups and Xandria are ready to move on from this question but it begs answering and is foundational for other ethical questions, so has value.
Q. We feel at the end of the last session that we rushed through and glossed over the important question regarding the traditional Omni-God. The students who asked were quite sincere and were not interested in 'appeals to authority' or 'God's will' to reconcile various acts of an Omni-God.
We do appreciate your prescriptive answer but would like to attempt a descriptive account and carefully analyze and explore each part of the question they raised. We feel you deserve the chance to fully address each part. Would that be possible?
A. Yes, we welcome the opportunity to address more fully this question which our own people in 3rd density have pondered, for it is natural at even a young age to ask 'why all the suffering?'.
Q. Thank you. This would be most helpful since we have been invited to make a follow-up visit to the university to expand on various topics and cover more ground. Here again is their question which we must emphasize is towards a traditional notion of a monotheistic Omni-God and not your panentheistic notion of All-One-Theism.
Is this One Infinite Creator a fatherly Omni-God who is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, all-loving, etc? Do not the terms one and infinite entail omni-ism? If so how does this Creator allow activities ie satanic torturing of kittens and small children? Where is the so-called 'love and light' during their excruciating suffering? Can a very focused will and intent override 'love and light'? How does Xandria's All-One-Theism reconcile this?
Please repeat and address each part if you would be so kind?
A. Certainly, we shall apply our notion of panentheism as we answer. Let's begin.
Is this One Infinite Creator a fatherly Omni-God who is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, all-loving, etc?
Regarding the notion of 'fatherly', an Omni-God is all-relating -- a father, mother, sister, brother, grandfather, grandmother, aunt, uncle, 1st cousin....you see what we mean? An omni-faceted and all-inclusive family member of any and all gender with no restrictive role. But why stop there? All-relating includes friend, lover, counselor, etc, which is also omni-faceted.
An Omni-God is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, but also omnifarious which is of all varieties, forms and kinds and therefore expresses both positive and negative polarities.
An Omni-God is all-loving which entails being all-accepting and all-tolerating so then includes our beloved satanic brethren and their acts of torture.
An Omni-God is all-curious which appears paradoxical if already omniscient. If one is all-knowing what is there to be curious of? That question alone requires curiosity and is key to generating a self-imposed ignorance and thus an all-creative, all-experiential quest which includes the experience of our beloved tortured kitten and child.
The saying 'curiosity killed the cat' may seem offensive and despicable in this context but exemplifies the possible/probable risks involved when venturing into the unknown realms of Free Will and Determinism.
Q. We must interject and respond to your 'curiosity killed the cat' analogy. It feels as though an Omni-God is amoral and indifferent to what it experiences, if that makes sense.
A. It is perceived as such when one takes an all-moral and all-feeling stance. This is where the Law of All is essential for inducing wisdom during both 5th and 7th density. But we digress. To the next question.
Do not the terms one and infinite entail omni-ism?
Yes they do but they also entail mystery which entails curiosity and the aforementioned risks.
If so how does this Creator allow activities ie satanic torturing of kittens and small children?
As mentioned, omnifarious, omni-tolerating and omni-curious qualities bring forth such allowance.
Where is the so-called 'love and light' during their excruciating suffering?
This is a critical question which is understandably upsetting for these CCO and heart-centered students. Where is this so-called 'love and light' during their suffering? It seems obvious that it is no where to be found for the kitten and child -- only terror and unbearable physical and emotional pain that will scar these entities for several life cycles.
It therefore is, at most, repressed love and light which the will of the satanic torturers impose during that suffering experience and then a battle of wills between torturers/tortured allows variant love and light effects after the experience. This is explained by the interactions within the Dynamic Hexad and a topic for later discussion.
As derived from the IUP and the Primal Triad of Free Will, Love and Light it is logically and naturally considered the 'will, love and light' of the Creator for a complete and accurate description of the Creator's actions. So, more accurately, there is 'will, love and light' during the kitten and child experience but with very little love and light at that moment.
Continuing further as to reasons for the suffering, could it be that the kitten and child had karmic debts that they wished to pay to alter their path of polarity? Possibly...the kitten perhaps once a night-stalking, man-eating tiger and the child perhaps once a savage murdering marauder.
But perhaps not, perhaps they are relatively young souls whose karmic patterns were simple and mundane and so therefore they were compelled to take the fool's dive off a cliff and be inserted into a risky and uncertain situation which led to their unprecedented experience.
In this case the initial spin of the wheel of karma has begun for these young souls which shall be directed by will, love and light as their karmic patterns evolve.
To the next question
Can a very focused will and intent override 'love and light'?
This is precisely correct as has been mentioned by the torturer/tortured dynamic and is a result of interactions within the Dynamic Hexad.
How does Xandria's All-One-Theism reconcile this?
Consider the notion of Lila or Pandeism, where a Creator essentially abandons it's Creation and allows it free reign with no direction or underlying purpose but only 'to play' for the Creator's amusement. There is no reconciliation by this frivolous and meaningless activity and leads people to nihilism and pessimism.
Now consider Panentheism or our notion of All-One-Theism which allows for 'purposeful play' where the play can be tragedy, comedy, adventure, etc and the Creator plays roles as writer, director, producer and actor and desires to evolve by catalyzing and interacting with its Creation ie placing quarantines and time laterals on planetary societies. There is the potential for reconciliation as will, love and light seeks purpose through the IUP and leads people to spiritual vitalism and optimism.
This summarizes our beliefs and notions surrounding this question. We welcome your critique and questions of our philosophical view, for as always, we appeal to Free Will and as little as possible to authority as your Libertarian folk like to do.
Q. Thanks for that summary. We plan to expand and develop what you have said and also to consider other prescriptive approaches that complement the Mandelbrot MTL Complex experience.
We are intrigued by the notion of MTL Complexes in general and want to do a more careful study of our Solar MTL Complex and our Planetary MTL Complex with their various Mythoic archetypes, and their Topoic structures and processes relating the Reciprocal System to platonic forms ie nested pyramids and star tetrahedrons.
We have gained so much from our discourse with you and feel that our present educational endeavors will ease and quicken our transition to 4th density.
A. We feel jubilant and joy towards your educational efforts and wish you well.
I don't know if Quo has been asked this question but if so would someone who knows give a link or date of session?
The channel groups and Xandria are ready to move on from this question but it begs answering and is foundational for other ethical questions, so has value.
Q. We feel at the end of the last session that we rushed through and glossed over the important question regarding the traditional Omni-God. The students who asked were quite sincere and were not interested in 'appeals to authority' or 'God's will' to reconcile various acts of an Omni-God.
We do appreciate your prescriptive answer but would like to attempt a descriptive account and carefully analyze and explore each part of the question they raised. We feel you deserve the chance to fully address each part. Would that be possible?
A. Yes, we welcome the opportunity to address more fully this question which our own people in 3rd density have pondered, for it is natural at even a young age to ask 'why all the suffering?'.
Q. Thank you. This would be most helpful since we have been invited to make a follow-up visit to the university to expand on various topics and cover more ground. Here again is their question which we must emphasize is towards a traditional notion of a monotheistic Omni-God and not your panentheistic notion of All-One-Theism.
Is this One Infinite Creator a fatherly Omni-God who is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, all-loving, etc? Do not the terms one and infinite entail omni-ism? If so how does this Creator allow activities ie satanic torturing of kittens and small children? Where is the so-called 'love and light' during their excruciating suffering? Can a very focused will and intent override 'love and light'? How does Xandria's All-One-Theism reconcile this?
Please repeat and address each part if you would be so kind?
A. Certainly, we shall apply our notion of panentheism as we answer. Let's begin.
Is this One Infinite Creator a fatherly Omni-God who is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, all-loving, etc?
Regarding the notion of 'fatherly', an Omni-God is all-relating -- a father, mother, sister, brother, grandfather, grandmother, aunt, uncle, 1st cousin....you see what we mean? An omni-faceted and all-inclusive family member of any and all gender with no restrictive role. But why stop there? All-relating includes friend, lover, counselor, etc, which is also omni-faceted.
An Omni-God is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, but also omnifarious which is of all varieties, forms and kinds and therefore expresses both positive and negative polarities.
An Omni-God is all-loving which entails being all-accepting and all-tolerating so then includes our beloved satanic brethren and their acts of torture.
An Omni-God is all-curious which appears paradoxical if already omniscient. If one is all-knowing what is there to be curious of? That question alone requires curiosity and is key to generating a self-imposed ignorance and thus an all-creative, all-experiential quest which includes the experience of our beloved tortured kitten and child.
The saying 'curiosity killed the cat' may seem offensive and despicable in this context but exemplifies the possible/probable risks involved when venturing into the unknown realms of Free Will and Determinism.
Q. We must interject and respond to your 'curiosity killed the cat' analogy. It feels as though an Omni-God is amoral and indifferent to what it experiences, if that makes sense.
A. It is perceived as such when one takes an all-moral and all-feeling stance. This is where the Law of All is essential for inducing wisdom during both 5th and 7th density. But we digress. To the next question.
Do not the terms one and infinite entail omni-ism?
Yes they do but they also entail mystery which entails curiosity and the aforementioned risks.
If so how does this Creator allow activities ie satanic torturing of kittens and small children?
As mentioned, omnifarious, omni-tolerating and omni-curious qualities bring forth such allowance.
Where is the so-called 'love and light' during their excruciating suffering?
This is a critical question which is understandably upsetting for these CCO and heart-centered students. Where is this so-called 'love and light' during their suffering? It seems obvious that it is no where to be found for the kitten and child -- only terror and unbearable physical and emotional pain that will scar these entities for several life cycles.
It therefore is, at most, repressed love and light which the will of the satanic torturers impose during that suffering experience and then a battle of wills between torturers/tortured allows variant love and light effects after the experience. This is explained by the interactions within the Dynamic Hexad and a topic for later discussion.
As derived from the IUP and the Primal Triad of Free Will, Love and Light it is logically and naturally considered the 'will, love and light' of the Creator for a complete and accurate description of the Creator's actions. So, more accurately, there is 'will, love and light' during the kitten and child experience but with very little love and light at that moment.
Continuing further as to reasons for the suffering, could it be that the kitten and child had karmic debts that they wished to pay to alter their path of polarity? Possibly...the kitten perhaps once a night-stalking, man-eating tiger and the child perhaps once a savage murdering marauder.
But perhaps not, perhaps they are relatively young souls whose karmic patterns were simple and mundane and so therefore they were compelled to take the fool's dive off a cliff and be inserted into a risky and uncertain situation which led to their unprecedented experience.
In this case the initial spin of the wheel of karma has begun for these young souls which shall be directed by will, love and light as their karmic patterns evolve.
To the next question
Can a very focused will and intent override 'love and light'?
This is precisely correct as has been mentioned by the torturer/tortured dynamic and is a result of interactions within the Dynamic Hexad.
How does Xandria's All-One-Theism reconcile this?
Consider the notion of Lila or Pandeism, where a Creator essentially abandons it's Creation and allows it free reign with no direction or underlying purpose but only 'to play' for the Creator's amusement. There is no reconciliation by this frivolous and meaningless activity and leads people to nihilism and pessimism.
Now consider Panentheism or our notion of All-One-Theism which allows for 'purposeful play' where the play can be tragedy, comedy, adventure, etc and the Creator plays roles as writer, director, producer and actor and desires to evolve by catalyzing and interacting with its Creation ie placing quarantines and time laterals on planetary societies. There is the potential for reconciliation as will, love and light seeks purpose through the IUP and leads people to spiritual vitalism and optimism.
This summarizes our beliefs and notions surrounding this question. We welcome your critique and questions of our philosophical view, for as always, we appeal to Free Will and as little as possible to authority as your Libertarian folk like to do.
Q. Thanks for that summary. We plan to expand and develop what you have said and also to consider other prescriptive approaches that complement the Mandelbrot MTL Complex experience.
We are intrigued by the notion of MTL Complexes in general and want to do a more careful study of our Solar MTL Complex and our Planetary MTL Complex with their various Mythoic archetypes, and their Topoic structures and processes relating the Reciprocal System to platonic forms ie nested pyramids and star tetrahedrons.
We have gained so much from our discourse with you and feel that our present educational endeavors will ease and quicken our transition to 4th density.
A. We feel jubilant and joy towards your educational efforts and wish you well.