04-01-2015, 03:27 PM
I'm just sad because I expressed an opinion- that I found your tone, Monica, a bit harsh, and your seeming lack of respect for those who crossed you seemed counter-productive to your goal of changing the opinions of others. I come to these forums under the assumption that if we express our opinions with love and respect, that others will listen, and maybe even alter their behavior based on sound reasoning. This is why the two of you are here to argue for veganism. Fine, that's wonderful, I've done it too. The key words are love and respect. Sometimes, I find it hard to find love and respect in your posts, Monica, especially your post diminishing my veganism. I also struggle to find love and respect when people send aggressive and accusatory PMs to forum members over innocuous posts. The point I've been trying to make is that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Sometimes those flies are still omnivores though, that's why you gotta use the honey. 
My biggest BEEF with the two of you, though, is how you have ganged up on me to try to convince me that my emotional reaction is incorrect, that Monica's words don't mean what they mean, that her sarcasm and derision is apparently in my head. I admit I've thrown a couple low blows and snide comments here as the thread has devolved. But to say that posts #201 and #204 weren't completely sarcastic and demeaning out of nowhere is really a twist of perception. I initially expressed that I felt Monica's tone was aggressive and counter productive, and now attempts have been made to say that my opinion is not worth as much as others because of longevity and tenure.
And really, I'll say it again: I don't mind your aggression and passion. If you read my initial posts you would see that I just thought that HERE, on the Law of One forums, to be so aggressive to all these people who are genuinely trying their best every day, is what seems extremely counter productive to me. I'm sure some people called you named and whatever in the past. That doesn't mean you have to punish everyone else in the present. I think most people here are rationally minded and accepting and it really ISN'T a lost cause to promote veganism here. But sarcasm, belittlement, STS accusations and aggro PMs aren't the way I'd go about it.
My biggest BEEF with the two of you, though, is how you have ganged up on me to try to convince me that my emotional reaction is incorrect, that Monica's words don't mean what they mean, that her sarcasm and derision is apparently in my head. I admit I've thrown a couple low blows and snide comments here as the thread has devolved. But to say that posts #201 and #204 weren't completely sarcastic and demeaning out of nowhere is really a twist of perception. I initially expressed that I felt Monica's tone was aggressive and counter productive, and now attempts have been made to say that my opinion is not worth as much as others because of longevity and tenure.
And really, I'll say it again: I don't mind your aggression and passion. If you read my initial posts you would see that I just thought that HERE, on the Law of One forums, to be so aggressive to all these people who are genuinely trying their best every day, is what seems extremely counter productive to me. I'm sure some people called you named and whatever in the past. That doesn't mean you have to punish everyone else in the present. I think most people here are rationally minded and accepting and it really ISN'T a lost cause to promote veganism here. But sarcasm, belittlement, STS accusations and aggro PMs aren't the way I'd go about it.