08-17-2010, 07:28 AM
(08-16-2010, 11:43 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Right. It's an illusion. In truth, infinity is all that there is and finity is an illusion. The point here is that portions of intelligent infinity choose to individualize themselves and explore finity. In doing so, they are choosing to (seemingly) limit themselves.
illusion ?
for infinity to be infinite, everything should be in it. that contains the concept 'illusion', if there was ever a concept that could be used in such a degrading manner regarding manifestations of infinity. first of all, if you take the 'illusion' concept out of infinity, it will not remain as infinity. so, illusion has to be there in infinity too.
second, the existence we know goes in octaves. so, there was an octave prior to this, and an octave after this, and according to what Ra says, infinite octaves. that means, manifestation in these octaves continue in the 'illusory' form as you dub it, towards infinity. so, there are infinite octaves going on in an 'illusory' manifestation. ie, the entities in the next octave, in its 2nd density, will still be limited in their 'illusion' according to their octave's rules and nature.
leaving the fact that even this makes that 'illusion' a permanent thing, because it goes towards infinity, there are philosophical considerations right from the start :
'you' cant choose to limit yourself to finity. because, if there is something that can be called 'me' , and any kind of choice that it can make, that means that that thing was not infinite from the start, but, finite.
infinity is. it doesnt make choices, because all choices are within it. it cannot be or choose to be anything other than itself, because then it wouldnt be infinite. leading to nothing existing, because everything is contained within it.
the 'seemingly' word is also out of place by the way. there is no other finite than this. the 'finite', is this. finity that is known, is this. dubbing it 'illusion' or 'fake' doesnt change the fact that as far as what we know, finite can be like this, and entities that are finite, are like this. ie, this is finity. the finite, is this. there isnt another 'finite' concept so that the finity can be an 'illusion'. finity we discovered, is as this.
in short, it doesnt matter whether the finite is dubbed as 'illusion' or else - if anything is so illusorily finite, it will take infinite amount of time, for it to be unillusorily infinite.
Quote:Ah, but it can, because there really isn't any such thing as a finite entity. By seventh density, entities are ready to drop the illusory husk of finity and become again that which they always were.
and then what happens ?
entities start the next octave in 8th again. just like how they started 1st of this octave, in the earlier octave.
there is infinite time passing in between that late 7th and late 8th, yet, there are infinite octaves which pass in between 1st and 7th.
that makes the two states pretty much equal.
Quote:It's an interesting question. Can infinity change? If not, why bother exploring finity at all?
in the question lies the answer.
infinity cant change. because even change is a concept that is contained within infinity, along with its antithesis, and their infinite versions. infinity, just can be infinity. it cannot explore anything, because it is explored and also unexplored. exploration is also a concept that lies within it.
answer is simple ; only finites can explore infinity. aspects of infinity. with this logic, also exploration is an entity, that can explore infinity, in infinite time.