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    Thread: Self-esteem / Confidence


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    08-18-2010, 09:15 AM (This post was last modified: 08-18-2010, 09:40 AM by Questioner.)
    (08-18-2010, 03:03 AM)unity100 Wrote: self worth, confidence are related to indigo.

    self acceptance, shame etc are related with orange.

    an entity may be a noticeable character (and therefore have a proper orange ray activity) but still may lack self esteem, or self worth.

    That's a great distinction. In everyday language we tend to run these concepts together. Let me see if I understand what you are saying. Do you mean that a person could suffer or not suffer from shame; and could feel self worth or not; as two separate issues at the same time. If so there might be at least two areas of their life that require healing and balance, not just one thing to change. "As soon as I'm not ashamed I'll be confident" might be too simple. Is that what you're getting at?
    (08-18-2010, 03:28 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: Would this color coding of the below chart then appear to be correct?

    Is that the David Hawkins chart from Power versus Force?

    I see what you're trying to do there. I'm not sure that the color coding fits. As I see it, the Law of One and all compatible teachings about chakras say that each chakra is our focus for one aspect of healthy, balanced living. For instance red ray energy is about feeling grounded and able to sustain our own lives in this world, and blue ray is about open communication. Yet you don't have these mapped to any keywords on the chart.

    It would be interesting to discuss Hawkins's work from a Law of One perspective. When we consider the chakras, there are some interesting comparisons to his levels of spirituality. But I'm not comfortable with just adding color stripes. On the other hand, if you want to use his chart on its own terms as a tool to break out of shame and rise to confident self-esteem, I think that's great. Shame is nearly dead on his chart, while confidence would be in 200's and a great step up to higher levels of consciousness.

    Even with that, I'm wary that we make confidence into another hierarchy. The whole point of shame is the feeling that whatever someone is, it's not enough. Now if we tell a shamed person that their goal of confidence is itself not enough, where does that leave them?

    Maybe it would be better to say that shame is like someone else's anchor and confidence is like a sail. In order to get somewhere, let's cut off the entangling line holding us down (or in fairy farm girl's lingo, release the cord), and raise the sail.
    Ali and Fairy, I really like the direction you're taking this thread.

    What if confidence is not a noun but a verb?
    What if confidence is just a label on one frame of a motion picture, like a snapshot labeled "pole vault?" Obviously you can't just wind up in the middle of that arc. It makes so much sense to me that confidence is the evidence of a behavior pattern.
    You both talk about emotional changes as something that comes from moving, not from theorizing. A new self-concept is nice, but until we picture ourselves doing something new, and then physically do it, how much really changes?

    This is something taught by NLP. Some NLP concepts make me itchy Confused but I think they are right on about this: change your state of mind by moving your body in a new way. If you were confident, where would your shoulders be? How far apart would your feet be? Where would your hands be moving? How fast would they be moving? How about moving that way now, even before you feel confident, and then your body can report back a feeling of confidence? But this is just a more formalized way to do exactly what you both described.

    It's really helped me to watch the Dog Whisperer show. Two thirds of his work is on getting people to use effective body language. They learn it in order to control their dogs, but they wind up as more effective human beings.

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    Self-esteem / Confidence - by JoshC - 08-11-2010, 05:01 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Questioner - 08-11-2010, 05:20 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by norral - 08-12-2010, 08:06 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Shemaya - 08-12-2010, 09:19 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by norral - 08-12-2010, 12:22 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by unity100 - 08-12-2010, 02:42 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Lorna - 08-12-2010, 06:28 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Brittany - 08-16-2010, 09:54 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Questioner - 08-16-2010, 02:39 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by unity100 - 08-16-2010, 05:57 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Peregrinus - 08-16-2010, 07:17 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by unity100 - 08-18-2010, 03:03 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Questioner - 08-18-2010, 09:15 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Ali Quadir - 08-18-2010, 10:18 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by unity100 - 08-18-2010, 01:59 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by βαθμιαίος - 08-16-2010, 10:29 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Peregrinus - 08-18-2010, 03:28 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by unity100 - 08-18-2010, 07:34 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Ali Quadir - 08-18-2010, 08:35 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Ali Quadir - 08-18-2010, 05:27 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by fairyfarmgirl - 08-18-2010, 08:57 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by fairyfarmgirl - 08-18-2010, 10:09 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Questioner - 08-18-2010, 10:14 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by fairyfarmgirl - 08-18-2010, 10:43 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by @ndy - 08-19-2010, 04:24 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Peregrinus - 08-18-2010, 12:18 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Questioner - 08-18-2010, 01:46 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Questioner - 08-18-2010, 02:03 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by unity100 - 08-18-2010, 02:18 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by JoshC - 08-18-2010, 05:27 PM
    Fire hoses and axes - by Questioner - 08-19-2010, 10:25 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Lorna - 08-19-2010, 07:31 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Shemaya - 08-22-2010, 09:05 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Ali Quadir - 08-22-2010, 03:05 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by βαθμιαίος - 08-23-2010, 08:52 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Questioner - 08-24-2010, 10:42 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Shemaya - 08-24-2010, 04:34 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Questioner - 08-26-2010, 08:19 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Shemaya - 08-24-2010, 05:37 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by βαθμιαίος - 08-24-2010, 08:49 PM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by colorado - 08-26-2010, 02:15 AM
    RE: Self-esteem / Confidence - by Shemaya - 08-27-2010, 04:19 PM

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