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    08-24-2010, 09:28 PM
    I saw this quote when I was thinking about this thread and thought it might be relevant. "All serve the One Creator. There is nothing else to serve, for the Creator is all that there is. It is impossible not to serve the Creator. There are simply various distortions of this service."

    (08-20-2010, 04:08 AM)unity100 Wrote: ra says infinite intelligence is without distortion, yet, we can contemplate that being 'intelligent' infinity has the distortion of being intelligent in the first place.
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    please notice that, intelligent infinity is infinity gained intelligence. it is not infinity.

    infinity doesnt make choices. intelligent infinity does.

    in short, intelligent infinity, is exploring infinity, the principle above it.
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    intelligent infinity is the one discovering. not infinity.

    I'm not sure that your distinction between infinity and intelligent infinity is all that convincing. Ra doesn't describe intelligent infinity's intelligence as a distortion. The first distortion, according to them, is free will.

    Infinity became aware. There is no longer, as I understand it, any part of infinity that is not aware or intelligent.

    (08-20-2010, 04:08 AM)unity100 Wrote: one should remember that Ra doesnt want to be remembered as bringers of unchanging dogma.

    Very true. However, the concepts of infinity/unity and the illusory nature of our experience are so basic to their teaching that I doubt that those are concepts they'd forsake. But, by all means, if they don't work for you, please let them go.

    (08-20-2010, 04:08 AM)unity100 Wrote: yes, and 'being part of' and 'being' are two different things. an icing on the cake is still part of the cake, but, it isnt the cake in its entirety.

    This gets back to the concept of a holographic universe. It's pretty fundamental to Ra's teaching, as I understand it. We have discussed the quote where Ra says that "any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity." Here's how they put it another time: "the unity of the Creator exists within the smallest portion of any material created by Love, much less in a self-aware being."

    (08-20-2010, 04:08 AM)unity100 Wrote: the point here is, entities spent infinite time in the state of finiteness, through infinite octaves. that means finity as much a reality of existence, as infinity.

    It's definitely a reality, but the point is that it's an illusory reality.

    (08-20-2010, 04:08 AM)unity100 Wrote: this is different tho parallel. i say it is not possible for a single entity to be able to become one with all other selves' dark sides. moreover, it is impossible for a single entity to become one with all other selves' light sides either.

    because, as a finite entity, it has finite capability.

    only by increasingly merging with other entities and becoming greater groups (ie societal complexes, then totalities then so on), entities merge and become infinite.

    in the end, infinite number of entities combine and become one with all others. this also implies that every entity becomes one with their light and dark sides one by one.

    this is what i say.

    That's fine, that you say that, as long as you're clear that it's different than what Ra says, which is that each of us has access to infinite capability.

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    There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 08-08-2010, 10:58 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Peregrinus - 08-08-2010, 11:48 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-08-2010, 12:03 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Turtle - 08-08-2010, 06:33 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-08-2010, 08:22 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Steppingfeet - 08-11-2010, 11:13 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-12-2010, 02:37 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-08-2010, 09:36 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-08-2010, 09:48 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-08-2010, 09:55 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Ali Quadir - 08-09-2010, 10:57 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-12-2010, 02:50 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-14-2010, 02:02 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-14-2010, 02:38 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-16-2010, 11:43 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Ali Quadir - 08-17-2010, 03:47 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-17-2010, 07:28 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-12-2010, 10:07 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Cyclops - 08-13-2010, 07:12 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-15-2010, 05:58 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-19-2010, 10:31 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-20-2010, 04:08 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-24-2010, 09:28 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-24-2010, 09:42 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-28-2010, 06:43 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-31-2010, 10:01 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-01-2010, 08:46 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-01-2010, 10:35 AM
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    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-02-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Aaron - 09-02-2010, 10:27 PM
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    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-03-2010, 08:22 AM
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    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-01-2010, 08:15 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-01-2010, 10:25 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-02-2010, 12:37 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-02-2010, 10:43 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-02-2010, 11:35 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-20-2010, 08:02 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-20-2010, 10:07 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-20-2010, 11:26 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-20-2010, 05:12 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Ali Quadir - 08-20-2010, 11:27 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Richard - 08-20-2010, 11:45 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-20-2010, 12:53 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-25-2010, 01:15 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-26-2010, 10:08 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-25-2010, 07:54 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-25-2010, 09:38 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Peregrinus - 08-28-2010, 01:19 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-30-2010, 04:43 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-03-2010, 08:12 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-03-2010, 08:54 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Poffo - 09-03-2010, 11:39 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-05-2010, 04:22 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-14-2010, 04:04 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Poffo - 09-17-2010, 04:49 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-17-2010, 11:37 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-04-2010, 04:21 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Aaron - 09-03-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-03-2010, 11:03 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-04-2010, 04:42 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-04-2010, 12:01 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Poffo - 09-04-2010, 06:19 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-04-2010, 07:51 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Turtle - 09-05-2010, 04:37 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-04-2010, 10:15 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-05-2010, 12:59 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-05-2010, 09:36 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-05-2010, 12:22 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-05-2010, 11:20 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-06-2010, 06:24 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Ali Quadir - 09-06-2010, 07:14 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-06-2010, 07:33 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-06-2010, 10:25 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-06-2010, 11:12 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-07-2010, 10:52 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-07-2010, 11:53 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-08-2010, 03:52 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-08-2010, 06:57 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-08-2010, 11:38 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-09-2010, 12:30 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-09-2010, 12:17 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Lavazza - 09-09-2010, 12:55 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-09-2010, 01:08 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-09-2010, 03:52 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-15-2010, 11:42 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-19-2010, 02:48 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-30-2010, 01:27 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-30-2010, 08:37 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-30-2010, 11:23 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 10-01-2010, 10:45 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 10-01-2010, 03:03 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 10-01-2010, 07:19 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 10-01-2010, 01:39 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 09-09-2010, 12:51 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Turtle - 09-05-2010, 01:49 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 09-05-2010, 02:16 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Turtle - 09-05-2010, 02:45 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 09-05-2010, 03:47 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Monica - 09-05-2010, 02:49 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Turtle - 09-05-2010, 03:03 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Etude in B Minor - 09-05-2010, 11:01 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Experience You - 09-06-2010, 01:44 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by seagrass - 09-08-2010, 12:30 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Experience You - 09-08-2010, 11:03 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Aaron - 09-09-2010, 01:46 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Lavazza - 09-09-2010, 10:53 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Monica - 09-09-2010, 11:33 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Ali Quadir - 09-10-2010, 09:32 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Quantum - 09-10-2010, 09:50 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Ali Quadir - 09-10-2010, 09:59 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Monica - 09-10-2010, 03:23 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by AnthroHeart - 09-14-2010, 04:28 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Ali Quadir - 09-17-2010, 05:19 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Etude in B Minor - 09-17-2010, 10:43 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 11-04-2010, 08:35 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 11-19-2010, 02:01 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Experience You - 11-20-2010, 03:24 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Infinite Unity - 07-17-2018, 05:56 PM
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