Thanks for thank link Ali Quadir 
I love your quote Peregrinus
I wonder if at the start just becoming quietly mindful of your body in what ever way works at least stops the trail of head jumble a little.
For example when my 3 year old little girl is non stop talking and giving me a running commentary of her head jumble.
Telling her to close her eyes and tell me what colours she sees at least seems to slow her thoughts and tongue down for a time

I love your quote Peregrinus

I wonder if at the start just becoming quietly mindful of your body in what ever way works at least stops the trail of head jumble a little.
For example when my 3 year old little girl is non stop talking and giving me a running commentary of her head jumble.
Telling her to close her eyes and tell me what colours she sees at least seems to slow her thoughts and tongue down for a time
