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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Transition to Fourth Density Is the Harvest finally over?

    Thread: Is the Harvest finally over?


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    07-12-2015, 03:22 PM (This post was last modified: 07-12-2015, 03:28 PM by 4Dsunrise.)
    I just want to summarize with a couple scenarios b/c there seems to be a conflation of the periods of Harvest and 4D transition. There are other scenarios but two that stand out are the following.

    Scenario 1 - Harvest period is different from 4D transition period

    Harvest period ends at the end of 3D cycle while 4D transition period is inter-cyclic and provides for several generations of 4D grads to enter 4D environment and 3D folk to exit. We should start to see a noticeable drop in the world population.

    Transition is 3.8/4.1D overlap and ramped up Harvest was during initial part of this overlap. (Quo mentions 1987 Harmonic Convergence as beginning of a "ramped up" time of Harvest -- I consider it ramped up rather than actual beginning)

    The Harvest period has been ongoing during this last minor cycle -- Ra says in 1981 "the Harvest is now". 

    My take is that one does need to cross over to be fully harvested -- either to 4D or back to 3D -- but now at the end of the cycle it is already known who is 'harvestable' and who are stuck at 45% STO or 90% STS, for example. They will live out their incarnation with no drastic change in polarization -- too much personal inertia to change. As Scott Mandelker says "The 4D/R4 gate is closed".

    Scenario 2 -- Harvest period and 4D transition period are exactly the same

    Harvest is the same as 4D transition of 100 to 700 years or, in terms of generations (every 25 years), approximately 4 to 28 generations.

    The world population will not noticeably decrease for at least another few generations -- maybe get to 10 billion by 2030?

    The 4D/R4 gate is not closed and those at 45% STO or 90% STS have up to 20+ future incarnations to graduate.

    The increasing 4D activation and decreasing 3D to potentiation is an unknown variable parameter that determines the length of the 4D transition and Harvest -- so the number of 3D incarnations will depend on this parameter during the 100 to 700 year period.

    Other Scenarios?

    The David Wilcock 2017 scenario -- he's due to get one prediction right!

    A note of interest is that in 2 Quo sessions -- August 2, 1987 and August 23, 1987 -- they never mentioned the Harvest when asked about the purpose of the Harmonic Convergence -- then in Sept 29, 2008 session they make it a big part of the Harmonic Convergence.

    Another note is that it's probably the case that mixed harvests with 15 planet races involved with a total population of 10 billion incarns/discarns is very complex and variable in terms of determining transition parameters.

    So give Quo and DW some slack! Wink

    I'm pro-scenario 1. Who is pro-scenario 2? Or who is pro-DW besides David?

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    Is the Harvest finally over? - by 4Dsunrise - 06-21-2015, 04:41 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by VanAlioSaldo - 06-21-2015, 11:48 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by APeacefulWarrior - 06-22-2015, 01:26 AM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Lighthead - 06-22-2015, 01:27 AM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Aion - 06-22-2015, 05:15 AM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Namaste - 06-22-2015, 05:19 AM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Matt1 - 06-22-2015, 06:57 AM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Nicholas - 06-22-2015, 03:08 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by mysteryunveils - 06-24-2015, 01:09 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by 4Dsunrise - 06-24-2015, 02:54 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Nicholas - 06-24-2015, 03:22 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by 4Dsunrise - 06-24-2015, 06:38 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by AnthroHeart - 06-24-2015, 07:01 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Nicholas - 06-24-2015, 07:24 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Bluebell - 06-25-2015, 10:02 AM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Minyatur - 06-24-2015, 07:32 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Nicholas - 06-25-2015, 09:32 AM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by MaxMug - 05-22-2019, 11:02 AM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by TheJoan - 05-22-2019, 01:19 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by 4Dsunrise - 07-12-2015, 03:22 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by ree - 07-12-2015, 04:33 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by AnthroHeart - 07-12-2015, 05:01 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Minyatur - 07-12-2015, 05:09 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Ooo - 07-14-2015, 10:13 AM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Minyatur - 07-14-2015, 01:28 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by LunaNebula - 07-14-2015, 03:03 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Minyatur - 07-14-2015, 03:29 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by AnthroHeart - 07-12-2015, 07:42 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Billy - 07-12-2015, 10:45 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by tamaryn - 07-14-2015, 01:47 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Dekalb_Blues - 07-31-2015, 01:20 AM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by KSaxon - 08-13-2015, 08:18 PM
    RE: Is the Harvest finally over? - by Bourbon Betty - 08-13-2015, 11:40 PM
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