Hi Memorandem,
I find resonance (and remembrance in my own past) in terms of the commitments made to yourself in order to find freedom. For me the origin of this line of thought or 'reasoning' started as a feeling of necessity in order to minimize the confusion of the 'insanity' as Ra (and/or Quo have termed it in quotes themselves in transcribed sessions) of this world. And by that, I mean the inability to comprehend 'separation', i.e. all answers from those questioned should be 'truthful', because why should anyone (i.e. parents, 'authority figures', et. al.) lie? [I suppose cultural naivete would be the translation here]. Then as more and more 'truths' became known, it seemed to me that a box of some sort was required in order to maintain the truth. That is, in order to maintain a stated 'truth', some other belief (usually unstated, and not necessarily consciously considered) was required. Also, half-truths and intentional half-truths (i.e. sarcasm, or 'layered' messages) were discovered. But remembering before that, it seemed that when seeking truth, in order to get out of the morass of half-truth (i.e. to simplify for order), it required either attempting to 'reboot one's belief system' or systematically organizing one's own knowledge and experience to help assist in the discernment between 'truth' and 'non-truth'. However, much of this is eased by realizing that one is in an illusion, and 'truth' in an illusion is also an illusion.
This is where I humbly disagree (with ayadew) in the value in researching paradox. As at least for my part, the topics where paradoxes were discovered became gateways to realizing the illusion. Footholds, even, which bolstered my confidence in in going against (or not being restricted by) the 'established' ideas of what is 'true' and 'known'. Paradoxically (ha), this process has been frustrating to my intellect, while uplifting to my spirit. I use quotes around true and known, as I believe these change (at least within the 3rd density illusion) along with our beliefs, similar to having a new perspective which sheds new light on something that would otherwise be 'believed-to-be-known-or-understood-entirely', and gives us cause to reconsider. So the more we consider (or believe) the world around us as 'mundane' and 'known' or 'understood', the more we seem to find comfort and 'grounding'. Here is where I as a seeker find endless passion (frustration, joy, sorrow, hope, despair, determination, curiosity ...), as I never find myself able to rest in the comfort or grounding of 'knowing'.
Basically, or me, when I realized that no one has 'the answer', they can have no authority over me except that which I give to them by believing they do. I started looking for someone to give me the answer, but instead found paradox and illusion, which paradoxically gave me the freedom I sought by seeking 'the answer' to begin with. It is as though life is a constant tearing down and rebuilding of our beliefs, where the 'our beliefs' is part of the paradox, as we are all one but do not seem to all see the same thing in the same way or from the same perspective ('higher'-'lower') at the same 'time' -- perhaps due to our belief in 'time' [and space].
As a result of the above thought process, is then perhaps our purpose as entities to collect the unbiased (i.e. free will, veiled) perspective through experience (in the greatest sense -- i.e. including all forms and manner of existence) of evolution (i.e. within time and space) as service to the creator attempting to know itself (within infinity)?
As to your struggles trying to relate metaphysical experience or information in a forum in a way that seems clear (to both you and readers), how can you be alone there? Even the information provided by Ra/Quo/etc. which comes outside the bounds of space and time, is paradoxically as clear as everything I have ever read in some moments, and at the same time when pondered over in the context of the 'everyday reality' sometimes as opaque and obscure as mud. As to the specific experiences of a gatekeeper (of the gateway to intelligent infinity), I cannot speak, I have had metaphysical experiences during meditation but nothing with a persona (i.e. 'higher self') as yet.
Peace and Joy as you desire it along your path wherever it leads,
Jason
Love, boolean style ... I like it.
I find resonance (and remembrance in my own past) in terms of the commitments made to yourself in order to find freedom. For me the origin of this line of thought or 'reasoning' started as a feeling of necessity in order to minimize the confusion of the 'insanity' as Ra (and/or Quo have termed it in quotes themselves in transcribed sessions) of this world. And by that, I mean the inability to comprehend 'separation', i.e. all answers from those questioned should be 'truthful', because why should anyone (i.e. parents, 'authority figures', et. al.) lie? [I suppose cultural naivete would be the translation here]. Then as more and more 'truths' became known, it seemed to me that a box of some sort was required in order to maintain the truth. That is, in order to maintain a stated 'truth', some other belief (usually unstated, and not necessarily consciously considered) was required. Also, half-truths and intentional half-truths (i.e. sarcasm, or 'layered' messages) were discovered. But remembering before that, it seemed that when seeking truth, in order to get out of the morass of half-truth (i.e. to simplify for order), it required either attempting to 'reboot one's belief system' or systematically organizing one's own knowledge and experience to help assist in the discernment between 'truth' and 'non-truth'. However, much of this is eased by realizing that one is in an illusion, and 'truth' in an illusion is also an illusion.
This is where I humbly disagree (with ayadew) in the value in researching paradox. As at least for my part, the topics where paradoxes were discovered became gateways to realizing the illusion. Footholds, even, which bolstered my confidence in in going against (or not being restricted by) the 'established' ideas of what is 'true' and 'known'. Paradoxically (ha), this process has been frustrating to my intellect, while uplifting to my spirit. I use quotes around true and known, as I believe these change (at least within the 3rd density illusion) along with our beliefs, similar to having a new perspective which sheds new light on something that would otherwise be 'believed-to-be-known-or-understood-entirely', and gives us cause to reconsider. So the more we consider (or believe) the world around us as 'mundane' and 'known' or 'understood', the more we seem to find comfort and 'grounding'. Here is where I as a seeker find endless passion (frustration, joy, sorrow, hope, despair, determination, curiosity ...), as I never find myself able to rest in the comfort or grounding of 'knowing'.
Basically, or me, when I realized that no one has 'the answer', they can have no authority over me except that which I give to them by believing they do. I started looking for someone to give me the answer, but instead found paradox and illusion, which paradoxically gave me the freedom I sought by seeking 'the answer' to begin with. It is as though life is a constant tearing down and rebuilding of our beliefs, where the 'our beliefs' is part of the paradox, as we are all one but do not seem to all see the same thing in the same way or from the same perspective ('higher'-'lower') at the same 'time' -- perhaps due to our belief in 'time' [and space].
As a result of the above thought process, is then perhaps our purpose as entities to collect the unbiased (i.e. free will, veiled) perspective through experience (in the greatest sense -- i.e. including all forms and manner of existence) of evolution (i.e. within time and space) as service to the creator attempting to know itself (within infinity)?
As to your struggles trying to relate metaphysical experience or information in a forum in a way that seems clear (to both you and readers), how can you be alone there? Even the information provided by Ra/Quo/etc. which comes outside the bounds of space and time, is paradoxically as clear as everything I have ever read in some moments, and at the same time when pondered over in the context of the 'everyday reality' sometimes as opaque and obscure as mud. As to the specific experiences of a gatekeeper (of the gateway to intelligent infinity), I cannot speak, I have had metaphysical experiences during meditation but nothing with a persona (i.e. 'higher self') as yet.
Peace and Joy as you desire it along your path wherever it leads,
Jason
(03-21-2009, 01:31 PM)ayadew Wrote: I extend this digital love to you.
Love, boolean style ... I like it.