(08-24-2010, 03:08 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: As I like to say, I ensure daily that the last words my wife and daughters hear when they go to sleep at night, and the first words they hear when they awake each morning is my soft whisper of "I love you". Of what better service can we be than that?Spoken as the intellectual-romantic-poet-seeker you've impressed me to be. Indeed, what better words may be offered to any and the world at large than the simple words "I love you?"
Without the intent of meaning to be pedantic by what follows, but more to the point of how words may divide as much as unite, I hope the following may serve two purposes if patient and followed as a point of interest. Language is amazing. An entire thread may be opened to the distortion and confusion of language as regards seeing, reading, speaking, and understanding more than one interpretation to a single sentence meant to otherwise state a single meaning. Watch this below as an example of attempting to illustrate seemingly two threads in one with respect to not only further clarifying "Power Days" but also the above point of "understanding one sentence with more than a single interpretation."
Given we agree that 4,5,6, are Zenith days, you interpret the Nadirs days to be 9,10 and 18,1.
3D Wrote:...it would seem to me that the most opportune time for accomplishing this magic would be during days 4-6 of the cycle. Based upon Ra's description, I would avoid attempting this "magic" during days 9-1 of the cycle (that is to say the first nadir at day 9-10, and then all through the negative phase and the second nadir at day 18-1).I ask as a result of understanding that a Nadir is opposite of a Zenith? (refer to sine-wave picture at bottom attached) If a Zenith is 4,5,6, then it seems reasonable that a Nadir would, if visualized as 18 points on a circle, be opposite of 4,5,6 as 13,14,15?
Ra Wrote:The most interesting portion of this information, like that of each cycle, is the noting of the critical point wherein passing from the ninth to the tenth and from the eighteenth to the first days the adept will experience some difficulty especially when there is a transition occurring in another cycle at the same time. At the nadir of each cycle the adept will be at its least powerful but will not be open to difficulties in nearly the degree that it experiences at critical times.Now as to more than one meaning: breaking the sentences here at the first period and instead inserting as the first words to Ra's 2nd sentence "On the other hand" (see below):
Ra Wrote:..."On the other hand" at the nadir of each cycle the adept will be at its least powerful but will not be open to difficulties in nearly the degree that it experiences at critical times.Perhaps this may add clarity or perhaps back to confusion if I see what I see.
Case in Point: Help me, with your wonderful engineering mind to muddle my way through what surely is otherwise a simple interpretation for you when you state that days "6-14 are the waxing outer magic days" (to which I agree), and that days "15-5 are the negative waning inner magic days" (to which I also agree), but then that if the Zenith as we also agree are 4,5,6 then how does this reconcile days 9-10 and 18-1 as the Nadir? Allow me to implore you to stay with what may seem pedantics to not only illuminate a better understanding of 'Power Days' but to also illustrate for a moment more what language may provide to sensible seekers as a means to unite vs to drive the more distorted even more mad to divide:
3D Wrote:What I find most interesting is that Ra does not describe the significance of the negative zenith (or indeed, the entire negative cycle) at all. That is to say, if the positive zenith of days 4-6 are the optimum days for work of the adept, and the nadirs are days of weakest energy, then what do days 13-15 represent? It seems more likely to me that these would be the best days for outer work if such days are reflected in the cycle at all.Once again I agree. But another interpretation may be: If a Nadir is the bottom and opposite of a Zenith as days 4,5,6, then days 13,14,15 may perhaps instead be seen as the Nadir days? This would fit in rather nicely to your question "then what do days 13-15 represent?" In this context days 9-10 and 18-1 are simply the most difficult as the transitional days, but perhaps not defined as Nadir days?
Dictionary.com Wrote:Nadir: the point on the celestial sphere directly beneath a given position or observer and diametrically opposite the zenith, e.g. 4,5,6 is below and opposite to 13,14,15.So, which is it? Is a Nadir directly opposite of a Zenith (as in a sine wave with 18 points representing 18 days with 4,5,6 on top, whereas 13,14,15 are on bottom as its opposite and as its Nadir, or is the Nadir the time and point of greatest adversity as seen in days 9-10 and 18-1?
A-h-h-h-h...but if that weren't enough, even Dictionary.com will not let a single meaning lie unperturbed without also distorting it to two meanings as it goes on to also define Nadir as the point of greatest adversity or despair.
If the Nadir is the difficult time of transition, then 18-1 and 9-10 are Nadirs. But if a Nadir is opposite a Zenith then 4-6 are Zenith and 13-15 are Nadirs. It is the first Ra sentence that almost seems to lend itself as though 18-1 and 9-10 are Nadirs. A simple single period at the end of the first sentence makes all the difference in the world as relates to contracts or wars versus peace and understanding, as much as would an insertion "on the other hand" after said period. Perhaps rather than joining the two sentences of Ra in logic as though a continuation of one to the other, it might be best to distinguish them "one from the other?" See my point?
Here is the exercise attached below in picture (scroll all the way down) of a sine wave bifurcated into two separate halves with 1-9 as the top half semi-circle of the positive curve with 4,5,6 at its zenith/apex, and with the the negative curve as the lower half of 10-18 with 13,14,15 as its bottom/Nadirs. Points 9-10 intersect the lines on the down curve as do 18-1 on the up curve of the bifurcation line as most difficult days of transitions, but in this context perhaps not as Nadirs?
Once again, please forgive the pedantics, but I find it amazing as much as magically humorous how such a Ra quote, much less words by ones neighbor,friend, family, co-worker or organization (think politics) may be so understood/misunderstood with ears in two different lights and as an entirely separate exercise than just the thread of "Power Days" alone. Now imagine what STS can do with this as a power play as wolves in sheep's clothing utilized towards the effort of disguising words to mean one thing while in fact deftly disenfranchising the world from their freedoms and/or possessions.This is us (sto) doing it for illustration and knowledge in the effort of bringing more light to be shared. They (sts) do the same in the effort of usurping more light for power and gain for self. Like a knife to butter, language may be spread to cast light or utilized to divide and cut.
As in my previous post, George Bernard Shaw quipped, we truly are separated by a common language.
.....and as the equally renowned philosopher Johnny Cash wrote: "I Walk The Line."
Q