There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY

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What I'm getting at here is that, my understanding of infinity is without distortion. Undifferentiated.

Thus, if we are currently existing in an illusion, which is a distortion, we are currently not infinity, given the premise that infinity is undistorted.

As we evolve, we remove the distortion. I contend that this is why Ra meant by You are infinity...Ra was referring to our ultimate destination, not our current state.

I think unity100 is comparing our current state to our ultimate destination. Our current state isn't infinity, though our ultimate destination is.

Ra said "you are infinity," not "you will be infinity." Infinity is our current state. It's the only state there is. We don't perceive it to be our current state because we have chosen to limit our perception. That limited perception is the illusion.

But what is the 'mask' ...the illusion? We have discussed why it exists, but do we know what it is?

The mask is the "illusory system of natural laws" that our logos has created for Infinite Intelligence to explore itself.

Taken alone, the words You are infinity would appear to mean as you indicate, but what I'm proposing is that we consider those words along with other words, to flesh out their meaning. I'm proposing that these words were intended to describe our true state, without distortion, not our current, distorted, finite state.

Do you mean other words from Ra? If so, please provide them. I have provided many, many quotes from Ra in support of my position in this thread.

Agreed. The reason I am in agreement with unity100 that our current state is being expressed as finite, is that this is the perspective we are operating from.

We may indeed possess both states, but unless we are accessing the infinite state, I don't see how we can really answer the question from that state.

My argument is that we can choose which state we want to answer the question from.

Perhaps so. Or perhaps it is yet another layer of illusion. Not even Ra has plumbed the mystery.

If we do access the Creator's viewpoint, and can speak from that viewpoint, then we could speak with certainty about that which we can now only speculate.

Ra says that opening violet ray is contact with intelligent infinity. It's not illusory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPgII_4ciFU

Thanks.

Ra said each portion of any pattern contains infinity.

Right, it contains infinity. Before you said "contain the pattern of infinity." What they actually said is "contains infinity."

Sure. But from which perspective are we discussing? We are not in just a single state at all times.

That's exactly the issue. I maintain that we can choose the infinite perspective. It's available to us through faith and will. My understanding of unity100's position is we are limited to the finite perspective.

And I think unity100 is correct on this point. I misspoke. To correct my statement: I would say the One Infinite Creator is less distorted than we are, so closer to infinity.

That's fine, but it does disagree with Ra, who said "the One Creator which is infinity."