09-21-2010, 09:55 PM
(09-21-2010, 07:19 PM)Lavazza Wrote: I agree with you. There is an exchange. My point is that the exchange between you and the rock, even if you are reducing it to rubble with a sledge hammer does not automatically mean that it is a negative interaction as your previous message implied.
the nature of interaction depends on the preference of the rock.
Quote: 3rd density interacts with 1st density at all times, it's impossible not to. Or did I misinterpret your meaning?
L&L, ~L.
something being impossible not to do, does not alleviate its consequences.
action <=> reaction, cause <=> effect. these are probably 2 laws that do not change with universes. so that means, regardless of what happens, results will come into being.
lets look at it this way ; that rock, is going to be a 2d entity eventually. and in a few billion years, it will move to 3rd density.
it is rather naive to think that, situations and path taken, catalyst and effects experienced in a density does not affect the spirit/entity, but it only happens in 3d. cause-effect chains never go away, and every existing thing is intelligent, because they are part of intelligent infinity, and have spirit, even if not individualized.
therefore continually subjecting a 1d entity, or a spirit group (rock, water, air, certain elements) to situations they do not 'want' (not compatible with their existing balance, or heavier than their existing balance can carry), and do things to them definitely will make an effect on that part of infinite intelligence.
as an example, we are raving and moving earth, burning and disintegrating chemical substances, processing water and air, and this and that in this society as of now. it is evident that this is taking a toll on the planet, however, that aside, it is also destroying formations that have formed in billions of years on earth, and elements that have formed in maybe longer time on the planet.
what do you think the characteristic of the spirit will have become, when any part of that graduates into 2d ?
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(09-21-2010, 07:39 PM)CircleofOne Wrote: Even the mountains that we perceive to be unmovable and unchanging are indeed changing; not just from erosion, but stone is just as malleable as liquid, it just moves at a much slower rate. I like what Lavazza said about it being an honor to be moved. I'm giving the gift of my consciousness to that rock by its proximity to me, helping it to evolve, which is why I took the rock in the first place.
did you ask the rock whether your 'bestowing honor' was wanted or not ? no. you just assumed it to be so, and you thought it would aid its evolution. there is no such axiom. any kind of spiritual continuum present in infinite intelligence would need its particular catalyst, just like how different 3d entities need different types of encounters, interactions and energy acting upon them for any given incarnation to effect progress.
leaving aside the fact that automatically assuming that your presence was 'an honor' sounds rather self-important, it also lacks some basic logic :
lets have a random 5d entity manifest in the room you are in, just 45 cm away from you. what would happen ? it would be an 'honor' right ? you would probably think that you would feel high vibrations, high frequencies, and be elated, right ?
you wouldnt. the instant manifestation of an high vibration entity that had noticeable power and stronger balance than you would probably upset your violet balance, and would lead to consequences that could, on the extreme end, end up with mental instability or death. it is also possible that even if you suffer less critical upset of balance, it could affect the body in the long run, and lead to serious illness, and death.
probably only entities compatible with your balance would not cause such serious issues, and still in that case prolonged exposure to strong high frequency energy would still take its toll, the least of it being tiredom, the kind of which mediums generally experience. and in mediums' case the event is not a manifestation, it is generally on spirit level.
so in short, you do not hold a flashlight into one's eye to enlighten him/her. that goes with all the entities, not only 3d.
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Quote:Besides wanting to connect to 1st density objects with the intention of aiding their evolution, I also want to be able to speak, in a way, to them.
becoming sensitive about the nature, devas, spirits would accomplish this.
Quote:When Ra talks about building the pyramids, he talks about them speaking to the inner awareness of the stones to communicate their desire for the stones to split and be shaped, to form the geometry of the pyramid, and so on.
as you see, they communicated their desire, and stones, apparently accepted. grabbing and throwing a stone, is not the same. or bulldozing a mountain. what Ra did was from 6th level contact with intelligent energy, and may not be feasible or practical in current 3d. therefore, very probably, the above methods of being sensitive about nature and nature spirits would act as a substitute.