09-22-2010, 11:42 AM
The brain and central nervous system affect the reality the individual lives in. If you don't believe it, pop some acid. Then try to explain how the CNS has nothing to do with mental functions.
You are equating basic 1d mineral consciousness to 3d consciousness. Sentience means two things, first of all it means consciousness. A rock is conscious, I agree... Secondly it means awareness.. A rock is not aware if you wave at it, it won't know. If you kiss it or hit it with a sledge hammer fragmenting it into thousand parts it won't even notice the difference.. It will change it's function of retaining converting and emitting energy by having it's mineral structure changed. But it won't actually notice. Because it is a rock!
This is analogous to you.. I can shine uv light at you, and you won't know it. You are conscious, and aware, and you understand uv, but you won't know it, because you do not have the faculties to be aware of uv light.... If I did the same with visible light, you'd know instantly because you are capable of perceiving that.
Think along those lines. It's really simple and straight forward. Consciousness is not all the things that we are able to do...
Like I said, a rock has a very limited subset of our abilities.What is the point of evolution if a rock can do what a human can do?
The rock has IAM consciousness, same as you and me. A rock is able to store psychic information just like all matter, and just like you and me, memory. You can tune into this using psychic faculties. This means you can experience sadness from a rock, but this does not mean the rock is sad. The rock simply contains sadness stored there by a person able to create sadness. Mineral consciousness allows for some basic conversions of energy, this is why we use crystals for healing.
A hard drive can contain poetry, but it does not mean it understands poetry. A radio does not create music, it converts radio waves into sound. Consciousness is required for these functions. But the mind that exists in humans is neither required nor present.
There are two ways for a rock to experience higher density experiences. First by being tied into a higher density system, i.e. you put the rock in your pocket or somehow incorporate it into your body. Secondly it evolves into life over time. But it cannot generate 2d or 3d functions in it's rock stage. It simply is not evolved.
An animal can develop human like self awareness by being reasonably evolved and around humans. Or evolving all the way. Same story.
You are equating basic 1d mineral consciousness to 3d consciousness. Sentience means two things, first of all it means consciousness. A rock is conscious, I agree... Secondly it means awareness.. A rock is not aware if you wave at it, it won't know. If you kiss it or hit it with a sledge hammer fragmenting it into thousand parts it won't even notice the difference.. It will change it's function of retaining converting and emitting energy by having it's mineral structure changed. But it won't actually notice. Because it is a rock!
This is analogous to you.. I can shine uv light at you, and you won't know it. You are conscious, and aware, and you understand uv, but you won't know it, because you do not have the faculties to be aware of uv light.... If I did the same with visible light, you'd know instantly because you are capable of perceiving that.
Think along those lines. It's really simple and straight forward. Consciousness is not all the things that we are able to do...
Like I said, a rock has a very limited subset of our abilities.What is the point of evolution if a rock can do what a human can do?
The rock has IAM consciousness, same as you and me. A rock is able to store psychic information just like all matter, and just like you and me, memory. You can tune into this using psychic faculties. This means you can experience sadness from a rock, but this does not mean the rock is sad. The rock simply contains sadness stored there by a person able to create sadness. Mineral consciousness allows for some basic conversions of energy, this is why we use crystals for healing.
A hard drive can contain poetry, but it does not mean it understands poetry. A radio does not create music, it converts radio waves into sound. Consciousness is required for these functions. But the mind that exists in humans is neither required nor present.
There are two ways for a rock to experience higher density experiences. First by being tied into a higher density system, i.e. you put the rock in your pocket or somehow incorporate it into your body. Secondly it evolves into life over time. But it cannot generate 2d or 3d functions in it's rock stage. It simply is not evolved.
An animal can develop human like self awareness by being reasonably evolved and around humans. Or evolving all the way. Same story.