01-27-2016, 12:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-27-2016, 02:49 PM by rva_jeremy.)
These questions are so awesome, thank you Austin!
My guess: it seems like these devices Ra speak of provide opportunities for catalyst (space war? giving a clear military advantage to a player in geopolitics?). Because they are not being used in a widespread manner, their potential to catalyze is not being realized.
I read this as a study in what service and interaction between entities entails. How much of the way we present ourselves to others, the way we decide what to say and what not to say, the way we imagine the other's interests and intent in order to even be able to negotiate an intelligible and useful conversation, how much more of all this does Ra, residing in a completely different social and mental context, have to do than us?
I think there's something really interesting to extrapolate from this: that effective communication is far more a complex activity than we typically think. I wonder if Ra's "study" was of what Cayce called the "race mind" of a culture or society (as opposed to the more universal "archetypal mind") to define a common intellectual foundation or context in which communication on points relative to that foundation/context can occur. Obviously, setting aside language, being able to have a conversation that effects a "meeting of minds" between two entities cannot occur if every term used in the conversation, it's historical, cultural, social, emotional context, needs to be discovered and understood.
So I read this as "studying the complete context of the Egyptians' experience in order to relate to them usefully and effectively".
EDIT: As I thought more about this, I had some other ideas.
One, there's a discipline called ethnolinguistics that deals with way language and culture reinforce one another. If we read an alien language, even if we could have all the words defined for us, would they make any sense to us without knowing the cultural, historical, and other subtle details of the people that inform how and why they use or don't use words? There's a kind of cultural signature to consensus reality that has its own ontology, if you will, that would be quite a bootstrapping exercise for any sufficiently alien entity to untangle.
Two, I realized I never addressed the appearance of light issue! But I think it's very similar to what I said above: we have the "luxury" of not needing our appearance to be a conscious, deliberate act of volition. If it were, we might have to expend a lot more effort determining a socially acceptable appearance. This is Ra's challenge, as I see it: to figure out what humans consider significant -- to the most subtle degree -- and cater to it so that difference does not detract from the teach/learning.
(05-15-2015, 02:39 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Ra Wrote:Unfortunately for the social memory complex vibratory rate of your peoples, these devices are not intended for the service of mankind, but for potential destructive use. This further muddles the vibratory nexus of your social memory complex, causing a situation whereby neither those oriented towards serving others nor those oriented towards serving self can gain the energy/power which opens the gates to intelligent infinity for the social memory complex.
What exactly is the connection that Ra is making here between the UFO technology being kept secret and “the energy/power which opens the gates to intelligent infinity”?
My guess: it seems like these devices Ra speak of provide opportunities for catalyst (space war? giving a clear military advantage to a player in geopolitics?). Because they are not being used in a widespread manner, their potential to catalyze is not being realized.
(05-15-2015, 02:39 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Ra Wrote:We ourselves, when we chose a mission among your peoples, needed to study your peoples for had we arrived in no other form than our own, we would have been perceived as light.
What is this sentence saying? It doesn't seem to flow logically. When they chose a mission among us, they needed to study us – then they say they would have appeared as light. What is the connection between needing to study us and how they appear to us?
I read this as a study in what service and interaction between entities entails. How much of the way we present ourselves to others, the way we decide what to say and what not to say, the way we imagine the other's interests and intent in order to even be able to negotiate an intelligible and useful conversation, how much more of all this does Ra, residing in a completely different social and mental context, have to do than us?
I think there's something really interesting to extrapolate from this: that effective communication is far more a complex activity than we typically think. I wonder if Ra's "study" was of what Cayce called the "race mind" of a culture or society (as opposed to the more universal "archetypal mind") to define a common intellectual foundation or context in which communication on points relative to that foundation/context can occur. Obviously, setting aside language, being able to have a conversation that effects a "meeting of minds" between two entities cannot occur if every term used in the conversation, it's historical, cultural, social, emotional context, needs to be discovered and understood.
So I read this as "studying the complete context of the Egyptians' experience in order to relate to them usefully and effectively".
EDIT: As I thought more about this, I had some other ideas.
One, there's a discipline called ethnolinguistics that deals with way language and culture reinforce one another. If we read an alien language, even if we could have all the words defined for us, would they make any sense to us without knowing the cultural, historical, and other subtle details of the people that inform how and why they use or don't use words? There's a kind of cultural signature to consensus reality that has its own ontology, if you will, that would be quite a bootstrapping exercise for any sufficiently alien entity to untangle.
Two, I realized I never addressed the appearance of light issue! But I think it's very similar to what I said above: we have the "luxury" of not needing our appearance to be a conscious, deliberate act of volition. If it were, we might have to expend a lot more effort determining a socially acceptable appearance. This is Ra's challenge, as I see it: to figure out what humans consider significant -- to the most subtle degree -- and cater to it so that difference does not detract from the teach/learning.