09-28-2010, 07:16 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-28-2010, 07:43 AM by Ali Quadir.)
I know, medical terms
Basically she just says "Amish may get fewer cases of autism because they're fairly inbred. This is known to cause them to be vulnerable to some diseases. And protected from others."
Maybe it's better to agree to disagree. I shared my opinion and you shared yours... We, as a forum, discussed vaccination in the past. I think we can predict the outcome. You present your case. I disagree with it. You disagree with my disagreeing.
We're all brothers and sisters here.. No need to bother with that. If you want to know why I think what I think that's fine. If the information presented would change my mind, I'd expect it to have done so the previous time round.
But please do look deeply into the research, don't just read the words of the people who disagree with vaccination only to repeat those.. Try to argue against their position, look up the other side. Question everything and make your judgment when one side clearly holds it's own and the other falls to rubble.
In any topic like this. I always try to make the other side fit.. I always try to attack my own position. Be my first critic. If my position holds out, it's stronger when it encounters the next critic.
So, it's up to you...
We don't have to imagine, that already happened. We're crawling out of that phase as we speak... Blame Freud for that one... I don't think the article reinforced that. Bad parenting doesn't cause autism... But good parenting can help people cope in much better ways, that last bit is factual..
Just like bad parenting doesn't cause blindness. But good parenting can help a child to cope with it so much better.

Maybe it's better to agree to disagree. I shared my opinion and you shared yours... We, as a forum, discussed vaccination in the past. I think we can predict the outcome. You present your case. I disagree with it. You disagree with my disagreeing.
We're all brothers and sisters here.. No need to bother with that. If you want to know why I think what I think that's fine. If the information presented would change my mind, I'd expect it to have done so the previous time round.
But please do look deeply into the research, don't just read the words of the people who disagree with vaccination only to repeat those.. Try to argue against their position, look up the other side. Question everything and make your judgment when one side clearly holds it's own and the other falls to rubble.
In any topic like this. I always try to make the other side fit.. I always try to attack my own position. Be my first critic. If my position holds out, it's stronger when it encounters the next critic.
So, it's up to you...
(09-28-2010, 07:08 AM)norral Wrote: i read the article Ali posted and one thing i
got from that is that the writer implies that autism is connected to
poor communication skills from the parents. thats a horrible implication
imho. imagine being the parent of an autistic child and someone
implying it to you horrible to even suggest it.
We don't have to imagine, that already happened. We're crawling out of that phase as we speak... Blame Freud for that one... I don't think the article reinforced that. Bad parenting doesn't cause autism... But good parenting can help people cope in much better ways, that last bit is factual..
Just like bad parenting doesn't cause blindness. But good parenting can help a child to cope with it so much better.
Quote: one thing i do no is that i trust the gubmint and what it says as far as i can throw it, not to far. i have seen children have horrible reactions to vaccines a friend of ours almost lost their child from the mmrI would agree with that. Friends of mine just had kids. They actually reported getting kind of stazi visits. The assumption seems to be that you treat your kid badly until proven otherwise. But that's a different story.
vaccine. also what i dont like with the vaccination method is that
they give so many different ones at one time. that imho is not smart.
you are dealing with a tiny being whose systems are nowhere near
being fully developed and overloading them with many vaccines at
once is not wise imho.
Quote: again i think we should remember that we are in a 3d world. the motivation here is profit. i do not trust the vaccine makers at allThe motivation for a company is obviously profit. But that does not mean mr Edward Jenner had any negative intent when he invented vaccines. He saved millions of lives by now. He saved more lives with his invention than any other work has ever accomplished. That companies want a profit does not mean vaccines are inherently bad for you. It certainly does not mean vaccines cause autism.
For what it's worth.