10-01-2010, 10:45 AM
(09-30-2010, 11:23 PM)Quantum Wrote: I use the term God loosely. I mean absolutely no religious context associated with it whatsoever. But in hindsight I suppose I can understand what such a word may evoke as an image for another who shared as much as was shared regarding your sentiments on religion. Let us loose the word God. It will only deflect the intent of the dialog. God for me is Infinity. God for me is the One Infinite Creator. God for you may be the figure of religion which we both know and agree is the Easter Bunny God. If we are agreed, we may move on.
doesnt make much difference. whether it be without any religious attachment, or not, the defense of an 'almighty god' is still the same.
we are not agreed, god for you may be infinity, yet, god according to Ra is not infinity.
the infinite intelligence which is named as creator happens/comes after infinity becomes aware. hence, infinity is not 'god'.
Quote:As for the nihilism comment, and any attempt to address your persona personally, I am perplexed? Nihilism is a legitimate philosophical belief of which more than a few famous philosophers were of this persuasion?
I would have thought that you would have taken this as an understanding at the very least, if not a compliment at most, more than an injury. I was addressing what I find to be your curious beliefs on infinity, not you or your persona. My confusion lies in the fact if you understood the term and its definition and were injured nonetheless. My apologies are offered if for utilizing it you did not understand its meaning and it resulted in your misunderstanding. See more on nihilism on
the problem is on that part you first attribute something that is not relevant to me, and then start to expand on analysis and then make conclusions from them in regard to the subject we were discussing.
leaving aside having no relevance to the attribution, starting from such a point and going way off to make conclusions regarding the subject's arguments and ideas themselves are unproductive and irrelevant. its akin to me going into semitic religions, attributing them to you, and then starting to make conclusions about your views in regard to this subject.
i have no issues about being analyzed, or getting talked about. however, it should be in a relevant context, and with direct observation, rather than loose attachment to irrelevant concepts.
as for the 'injury' part, my injury is, a possibly productive discussion going astray with the necessities of someone needing to defend a god.
Quote:Same as above. God is a simple word made up of three simple letters in the English language which seems to have evoked a response I'm not prepared for, given the word God for me carries an entirely different connotation, which humorously is no doubt the exact same definition you would no doubt have for Infinity, Infinite Intelligence, Intelligent Infinity, etc etc.
My apologies once again. Lets try it again....but lets try it without looking for whats not there, i.e. God. I further assure you that I am addressing your concepts, not you, i.e. nihilism, and attempting to do in as an erudite and detached manner as possible.
i disagree.
you 'humorously' use the word 'god', however your entire last post, is clearly in the strong defense of such a god, even if you are someone who doesnt believe in a god, and do it for argument's sake.
this wouldnt create any problems, if you havent been selectively ignoring important concepts, or attributing irrelevant concepts.
Quote:your arguments are untenable. not only that, but you also apparently have read whatever i said carelessly.
in infinity, everything that IS and can BE are found. however, that is not entirety of infinity.
what you term as 'possible' and 'impossible', are also just concepts, terms, identifying various adjectives and states of things that can 'be' in infinity.
infinity, is not limited to 'be'ing. infinity is not limited to any of these. all of these are subsets of infinity. for every 'possibility' of 'being' that one can find or think, there exists also a counterpart of that situation, that is totally the exact opposite, and complements it to point infinity, perfect state of nullification and balance. if there is a 'creator' there is a 'non creator'. if there is an 'infinite intelligence', there is also an infinite 'unintelligence'. crude may be the naming, the concept is evident.