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    04-15-2016, 05:31 PM
    So here's my take: The Confederation teaches a lot about self-forgiveness being important, and about learning self-love, because I think these are lessons for Wanderers. I don't think that many Wanderers accrue -real- karma by any means, but more "thought" karma through feeling guilt for perceived inadequacies.

    I see the "honor" in harboring guilt for one's actions, but that's a martyr's honor. As a Creator one should rise up and realize that they are co-Creating all of their experiences with other co-Creators, and nothing is in a vacuum - your vibrational resonance feeds another's vibrational need - that person you snapped at at the grocery store, was pulling to them the experience of a stranger's anger towards them. Both of you were involved in the catalyst's occurrence. In one way it's a catch 22 because the martyr says "This is all my fault! I've created these bad things with my bad actions!" which is in one way is taking responsibility, but while ignoring unity. Really, everything we do is co-created with other willing participants.

    So yes, total self-forgiveness is important, even if the other person doesn't forgive you. Otherwise, the other person not forgiving you would be a huge power to lord over someone - say, my own father hates me for things that I'm not even sure about. I can't be concerned with his forgiveness one bit, because it may be impossible and something I'd chase forever. I can't control how others respond to me or handle their catalyst, and I can't go on in my life feeling like I have bad karma because someone hasn't forgiven me, because I will continue to create that reality because that is the reality my thoughts are feeding into. Others' thoughts only create our reality when we let them. I know in my own heart if and where I have done wrong, and it is entirely up to me when I decide to stop punishing myself for it.

    So in short, as Wanderers I think we create most of our karma through guilt, which I would perceive as the opposite of self-forgiveness. Which is why self-forgiveness is an important step to stopping the wheel. It's also important because so often we project what we haven't forgiven in ourselves upon other-selves, and therefore have trouble forgiving them, which is what keeps the wheel turning.
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    _____ - by GentleWanderer - 04-12-2016, 08:30 AM
    RE: Forgiveness - by Minyatur - 04-12-2016, 08:58 AM
    RE: Forgiveness - by rva_jeremy - 04-12-2016, 10:18 AM
    RE: Forgiveness - by YinYang - 04-12-2016, 03:07 PM
    _____ - by GentleWanderer - 04-13-2016, 09:54 AM
    RE: Forgiveness - by YinYang - 04-12-2016, 03:16 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by Nicholas - 04-12-2016, 09:08 PM
    _____ - by GentleWanderer - 04-13-2016, 09:46 AM
    RE: Forgiveness - by YinYang - 04-14-2016, 03:41 AM
    _____ - by GentleWanderer - 04-14-2016, 03:37 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by Patrick - 04-14-2016, 03:17 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by AnthroHeart - 04-14-2016, 06:33 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by anagogy - 04-14-2016, 09:20 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by AnthroHeart - 04-14-2016, 09:29 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by isis - 04-14-2016, 10:18 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by AnthroHeart - 04-14-2016, 10:40 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by Minyatur - 04-14-2016, 11:00 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by anagogy - 04-14-2016, 10:45 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by Night Owl - 04-15-2016, 03:36 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by anagogy - 04-16-2016, 04:14 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by Jade - 04-15-2016, 05:31 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by AnthroHeart - 04-16-2016, 04:25 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by Jade - 04-16-2016, 05:20 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by YinYang - 04-16-2016, 06:50 PM
    RE: Forgiveness - by Stranger - 04-17-2016, 09:46 AM
    RE: Forgiveness - by Patrick - 04-17-2016, 10:02 AM
    RE: Forgiveness - by Stranger - 04-17-2016, 10:20 AM
    RE: Forgiveness - by Patrick - 04-17-2016, 10:39 AM
    RE: Forgiveness - by Stranger - 04-17-2016, 10:59 AM

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