(10-03-2010, 09:38 PM)unity100 Wrote: not practical on earth ?
its already being practiced in open source project formats. recently, these formats have moved to hardware production, further than software. there are some organizations, some small charities operating with these principles. some are already proposing governance concepts based on these.
Really!!! You are taking an example from a capitalist company from a capitalist country. How could this be a socialist example. If the same thing was tried in a socialist country then first of all unions would have objections to these countless people working number of hours for no wages and benefits. They would try to get proper union members with salary and benefits to do it. How dare a greedy capitalist company exploiting poor workers without wages... Then there probably would be some regulation to overcome fro someone to use their time like this. How can people collaborate on something that maybe wasteful for their own pleasures, shouldn't they be working on something that is politburo approved and puts food on the table... You might even have to stand two/three hours in a line to get your proper approval or permit to even work on such a project. And even then the government might suggest who to pick on these projects. And if this turns out to be some success despite the red tape, they would make a regulation for all the countrymen to participate in such projects, mandatory.
If open source software development is an example of socialist practice then I would argue that America is a socialist country. And status of liberty is a socialist symbol; we just need to replace the torch with hammer and sickle. And the declaration of independence is a socialist manifesto. I have proof too-
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...".
That sounds pretty socialist in that way. But what is the difference-
The difference is the consent of the governed. It is the individual that holds the most important place in the US system and it is the collective that holds supreme in the socialist/communist system. The idea is that once individual take care of themselves the collective will automatically be taken care of.
The difference is the role of the government. In all socialist systems government is all powerful and absolute authority. In American system the individuals choose the government.
The difference is the choice. In socialist system government makes the rule and only choice is for you to get out of the country or get killed. In American system, you can throw the government out.
(10-04-2010, 10:59 AM)unity100 Wrote: actually, technically, if you dont like the way a government is being run, you can leave that country, government, and live elsewhere. even if its hard.
And people do try to escape these oppressive regimes. If the socialism is so good why are their people always trying to escape it. Recent examples of Cuban coming to America in small boats leaving their families behind and risking their own lives. Then there was Berlin wall between East and West Germany just to hold the people from East Germany to escape the oppression. What significant cultural differences could East and West Germany have to cause so much disparity in the growth and prosperity. To me it is case of failure of centralized command and control planning failure of socialism that cause all the deficiencies in the economic system.
(10-03-2010, 09:38 PM)unity100 Wrote: this is incorrect, since space/time and time/space both contain elements from each other. actually, they are just weighted versions of each other.
just like how physicality exists in physical world to have the astral distribute over it, in astral, physicality is distributed over the astral.
physical and nonphysical cannot be separated at any given point. only, their balance and weighting can change.
moreover, since there are still bodies needed in order to manifest in astral plane (time/space bodies in time/space, hence the physicality), the amount of energy that these can channel and shoulder will still be limited with their capacity. and since physicality applies there too, in lessened amount, there may be much more astral energy circulating, but there will still be limits as to any manifesting node, concept, reality can handle and transfer.
All is one and One is all. So yes they are connected but doesn't translate into them being the same. Space/Time is limited and Time/Space is unlimited. Do you feel limited in a dream?
4D+ is not just going to be a nicer version of 3D, it is a qualitatively different experience. It is not just a bigger box, it is going to be outside the box so to speak...