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    Aion (Offline)

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    04-29-2016, 12:05 AM (This post was last modified: 04-30-2016, 01:28 AM by Aion.)
    (04-28-2016, 05:47 PM)Mahakali Wrote: Well, yes, merging with the Ultimate is the final goal. That's what liberation is. But, first, I think I have to let go of craving for form, and I crave a higher form of freedom right now.

    Why is that sometimes this world is portrayed as a living Hell of karmic debts run by evil tyrants from which escape is the primary goal, though they try to trap you here even in death, yet, other times, it's portrayed as a great place of opportunity with long waiting lists where even the gods vie to be born?

    Is it not possible that this is not just a nexus of various portions of an infinite multiverse, and, say, the Ra material, or Christianity, or atheism, etc. are just different paths to take that lead to different places in said infinite multiverse, and the reality of the matter is not so linear?

    This is what I feel the truth is, deep down. I believe that infinity is present in every moment, and perhaps no such thing as a past exists, and "reincarnation" is just a manifestation in space/time of whatever time/space pattern we are left in at point of death.

    Anyone else have an opinion on this?

    Yes, I agree that infinity is not only "present" but is in fact the very foundation of the moment which exists at all times simultaneously. What we perceive as other selves and other lives are all co-existent within one single present moment, each in corresponded with all others. I believe there is, truly, only one being and that when we meet any other thing, in whatever form, we are interacting with that same being. The past only exists 'in the moment', as does the future. The past is what we call our memory of the state of the moment we have experienced and the future is what we call the occurrence of any change within the moment.

    There is no other 'place' to go, in my opinion. Rather, you call the conditions upon you by the focus you hold in the moment. Thus, the more you focus upon any identity, regardless of whether or not you like it, the more it will be reinforced within your reality. Thus, if you want things that are contrary to your attachments, it will be very difficult to call those conditions.

    Quote:36.4 Questioner: Do I understand from this then that the higher self or Oversoul may break down into numerous units if the experience is required to what we would call simultaneously experience different types of catalyst and then oversee these experiences?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is a statement we cannot say to be correct or incorrect due to the confusions of what you call time. True simultaneity is available only when all things are seen to be occurring at once. This overshadows the concept of which you speak. The concept of various parts of the being living experiences of varying natures simultaneously is not precisely accurate due to your understanding that this would indicate that this was occurring with true simultaneity. This is not the case.

    The case is from universe to universe and parallel existences can then be programmed by the Higher Self, given the information available from the mind/body/spirit complex totality regarding the probability/possibility vortices at any crux.

    Quote:70.9 Questioner: I think I have an erroneous concept of the mind/body/spirit complex, for instance, that I represent here in this density and my higher self. The concept probably comes from my concept of space and time. I am going to try to unscramble it. The way I see it right now is that I am existing in two different locations, here and in mid-sixth density, simultaneously. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. You are existing at all levels simultaneously. It is specifically correct that your higher self is you in mid-sixth density and, in your way of measuring what you know of as time, your higher self is your self in your future.

    Quote:70.12 Questioner: Then what we are looking at is a long path of experience through the densities up to mid-sixth density which are a function totally of free will and result in the awareness of the higher self in mid-sixth density, but since time is illusory and there is a, shall I say, unification of time and space or an eradication of what we think of as time, then, all of this experience that results in the higher self, the cause of evolvement through the densities, is existing while the evolvement takes place, since it’s all simultaneous. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. We refrain from speaking of correctness due to our understanding of the immense difficulty of absorbing the concepts of metaphysical existence. In time/space, which is precisely as much of your self as is space/time, all times are simultaneous just as, in your geography, your cities and villages are all functioning, bustling, and alive with entities going about their business at once. So it is in time/space with the self.

    I believe balancing allows us to properly grasp the many angles of ourselves. When I suggested change before I did not mean to imply anything would be "lost", but rather you would find the opposite concepts of which you are conceiving and attempt to reconcile them within yourself. Thus, for hatred you would balance it with love. For fear you would balance it with courage. Masochism you could maybe balance with care-taking or with compassion. Of course, all these things would be balance vice versa as well. As they are equalized they will naturally 'dissolve', not disappear but they will "integrate" with yourself. One way to think of it is a process of gradually becoming One, all the identities within becoming as the One, united.

    Quote:5.2 Questioner: We have decided to accept, if offered, the honor/duty of learning/teaching the healing process. I would ask as to the first step which we should accomplish in becoming effective healers.
    Ra: I am Ra. We shall begin with the first of the three teachings/learnings.

    We begin with the mental learn/teachings necessary for contact with intelligent infinity. The prerequisite of mental work is the ability to retain silence of self at a steady state when required by the self. The mind must be opened like a door. The key is silence.

    Within the door lies an hierarchical construction you may liken unto geography and in some ways geometry, for the hierarchy is quite regular, bearing inner relationships.

    To begin to master the concept of mental discipline it is necessary to examine the self. The polarity of your dimension must be internalized. Where you find patience within your mind you must consciously find the corresponding impatience and vice versa. Each thought that a being has, has in its turn an antithesis. The disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge with its equal. The mind contains all things. Therefore, you must discover this completeness within yourself.

    The second mental discipline is acceptance of the completeness within your consciousness. It is not for a being of polarity in the physical consciousness to pick and choose among attributes, thus building the roles that cause blockages and confusions in the already-distorted mind complex. Each acceptance smoothes part of the many distortions that the faculty you call judgment engenders.

    The third discipline of the mind is a repetition of the first but with the gaze outward towards the fellow entities that it meets. In each entity there exists completeness. Thus, the ability to understand each balance is necessary. When you view patience, you are responsible for mirroring in your mental understanding, patience/impatience. When you view impatience, it is necessary for your mental configuration of understanding to be impatience/patience. We use this as a simple example. Most configurations of mind have many facets, and understanding of either self polarities, or what you would call other-self polarities, can and must be understood as subtle work.

    The next step is the acceptance of the other-self polarities, which mirrors the second step.

    These are the first four steps of learning mental discipline. The fifth step involves observing the geographical and geometrical relationships and ratios of the mind, the other mind, the mass mind, and the infinite mind.

    The second area of learn/teaching is the study/understanding of the body complexes. It is necessary to know your body well. This is a matter of using the mind to examine how the feelings, the biases, what you would call the emotions, affect various portions of the body complex. It shall be necessary to both understand the bodily polarities and to accept them, repeating in a chemical/physical manifestation the work you have done upon the mind bethinking the consciousness.

    The body is a creature of the mind’s creation. It has its biases. The biological bias must be first completely understood and then the opposite bias allowed to find full expression in understanding. Again, the process of acceptance of the body as a balanced, as well as polarized, individual may then be accomplished.

    It is then the task to extend this understanding to the bodies of the other-selves whom you will meet. The simplest example of this is the understanding that each biological male is female; each biological female is male. This is a simple example. However, in almost every case wherein you are attempting the understanding of the body of self or other-self, you will again find that the most subtle discernment is necessary in order to fully grasp the polarity complexes involved.

    At this time we would suggest closing the description until the next time of work so that we may devote time to the third area commensurate with its importance.

    We can answer a query if it is a short one before we leave this instrument.

    Mental discipline allows you to focus through will upon that which is desire as catalyst to be experienced. The more you free your mind of attachments to form and identity, the ways in which you imagine yourself, the more your reality will be freed by the experience. I know you are not interested in any path of service and that is fine, but I personally think that the "heart of evolution" and the return to the Ultimate is fundamentally 'the same'. I think the saying is, 'wide is the path, narrow is the gate'. I agree, there are infinite, unlimited number of 'paths' to take, but ultimately it is all just a crossroad leading to a crossroad leading to a crossroad. It's not til you stop and realize that the 'paths' all lead to one 'point' - you - that you see that the paths are not really there at all, there are only directions you go in facing yourself.

    Quote:52.11 Questioner: Thank you. Just a little point that was bothering me of no real importance.

    Well, is there then, from the point of view of an individual who wishes to follow the service-to-others path from our present position in third density, is there anything of importance other than disciplines of personality, knowledge of self, and strengthening of will?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is technique. This is not the heart. Let us examine the heart of evolution.

    Let us remember that we are all one. This is the great learning/teaching. In this unity lies love. This is a great learn/teaching. In this unity lies light. This is the fundamental teaching of all planes of existence in materialization. Unity, love, light, and joy; this is the heart of evolution of the spirit.

    The second-ranking lessons are learn/taught in meditation and in service. At some point the mind/body/spirit complex is so smoothly activated and balanced by these central thoughts or distortions that the techniques you have mentioned become quite significant. However, the universe, its mystery unbroken, is one. Always begin and end in the Creator, not in technique.
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