(04-14-2017, 03:23 PM)ScottK Wrote: Freedom in our world is: Paying over 50% of your productive effort to the government and banks. Doing what you're told by government and "authorities" (those people who know better how you should live your life than you do). So you are paying big money to have others tell you what to do. And working at least 40 hour weeks for 50 years taking orders from "The Man".
Most people truly do believe that's freedom. I, however, would side with those who call it slavery. There's a difference between spiritual freedom and the physical experience of freedom or lack thereof.
And another might think you are enslaved to the belief systems that make you the entity you are right now. Do you believe you are free? If so, then you really can't say whether someone else is free or not. You are choosing to live under a certain set of rules as part of the package that comes with Earth existence. These are natural laws. Since you are choosing to be 'enslaved' by these laws, as one might put it, are you truly free? Even if it was your choice to be governed by them?
Consider the notable saints and positive entities who chose to become enslaved for a time, in this incarnation. Nelson Mandela surely programmed it into his life preincarnatively that he would be locked up in South Africa for decades. Jesus of course chose to give himself up to his captors. Jesus was essentially enslaved for the period of his crucifixion. But he chose to do it, consciously.
I think that the people you are referring to, the people who 'do what they're told,' they WANT to do what they're told, they WANT to live like that. So they ARE free! That is the fullest extent of their desire for freedom! Perhaps you might desire a higher level of conscious freedom, but you are still enslaved from another perspective!
I choose to believe that no one is enslaved, because free will is revocable never.