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    04-14-2017, 08:12 PM
    (04-14-2017, 03:33 PM)sjel Wrote: And another might think you are enslaved to the belief systems that make you the entity you are right now. Do you believe you are free? If so, then you really can't say whether someone else is free or not. You are choosing to live under a certain set of rules as part of the package that comes with Earth existence. These are natural laws. Since you are choosing to be 'enslaved' by these laws, as one might put it, are you truly free? Even if it was your choice to be governed by them?

    Indeed, freedom is a rather interesting subject. As Quo said in a channeling ( http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0304.aspx ), the only entity which is truly free is the savage - for example, a wild animal. They can pretty much do as they wish. Humans like to create attachments for themselves (significant others, children, pets, jobs, hobbies, etc), which inherently limits freedom. Perhaps this is what you are referring to as "natural laws"

    At the societal level, I would certainly argue against the notion that authority over you is a "natural law". Rather, it strikes me that this is an artificial and unnecessary construct set up by the Orion Group to enslave. I choose not to be governed/controlled by the Orion Group.

    (04-14-2017, 03:33 PM)sjel Wrote: I think that the people you are referring to, the people who 'do what they're told,' they WANT to do what they're told, they WANT to live like that. So they ARE free! That is the fullest extent of their desire for freedom! Perhaps you might desire a higher level of conscious freedom, but you are still enslaved from another perspective!

    Free will is in control for each individual, I agree Smile

    I think it's more that they chose to experience enslavement while believing that they were free. Certainly their Higher Self understands just how enslaved they are during this incarnation, but their job while incarnated is more related to "making the best of it" and helping others to learn their lessons.

    (04-14-2017, 03:33 PM)sjel Wrote: I choose to believe that no one is enslaved, because free will is revocable never.

    I can agree with that at a certain level. You had free will to choose that you would be enslaved - the enslavement is in the physical world, not the spiritual realms.

    But some were put here to recognize the level of enslavement here right now in the physical in order to change it and to move towards creating a 4th density society. It's not an accident when one sees it, and doesn't live in denial of it. It's probably because they are here to help drive the process forward.

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    Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by GreatSpirit - 04-13-2017, 12:53 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-13-2017, 02:09 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by ScottK - 04-13-2017, 10:51 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-13-2017, 12:45 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by Minyatur - 04-13-2017, 01:03 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by ScottK - 04-13-2017, 08:35 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by Infinite Unity - 04-22-2017, 08:23 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by ScottK - 04-22-2017, 09:23 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-13-2017, 01:15 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by Minyatur - 04-13-2017, 01:29 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by ScottK - 04-13-2017, 08:19 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by isis - 04-14-2017, 09:23 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-14-2017, 02:12 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 04-14-2017, 11:24 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by ScottK - 04-14-2017, 03:23 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by sjel - 04-14-2017, 03:33 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by ScottK - 04-14-2017, 08:12 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by sjel - 04-14-2017, 10:06 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-14-2017, 03:54 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by ScottK - 04-14-2017, 07:36 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-15-2017, 02:57 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by ScottK - 04-15-2017, 09:08 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-15-2017, 09:37 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by Minyatur - 04-15-2017, 09:41 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-15-2017, 09:46 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by Minyatur - 04-15-2017, 10:09 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-15-2017, 10:20 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-14-2017, 03:17 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 04-14-2017, 09:58 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by sjel - 04-14-2017, 10:19 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by APeacefulWarrior - 04-15-2017, 02:22 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by sjel - 04-14-2017, 03:26 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by Coordinate_Apotheosis - 04-14-2017, 10:19 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by sjel - 04-14-2017, 10:23 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by GreatSpirit - 04-24-2017, 01:44 AM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by Spooner - 04-24-2017, 06:06 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by Spooner - 04-24-2017, 06:18 PM
    RE: Find out how much your birth certificate is worth!! - by Spooner - 04-24-2017, 06:24 PM
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