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    Thread: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY


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    11-19-2010, 02:01 PM
    http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#18

    Quote:78.18 Questioner: So the original evolution then was planned by the Logos but the first distortion was not extended to the product. At some point this first distortion was extended and the first service-to-self polarity emerged. Is this correct and if so, could you tell me the history of this process of emergence?

    Ra: I am Ra. As proem let me state that the Logoi always conceived of themselves as offering free will to the sub-Logoi in their care. The sub-Logoi had freedom to experience and experiment with consciousness, the experiences of the body, and the illumination of the spirit. That having been said, we shall speak to the point of your query.

    The first Logos to instill what you now see as free will, in the full sense, in its sub-Logoi came to this creation due to contemplation in depth of the concepts or possibilities of conceptualizations of what we have called the significators. The Logos posited the possibility of the mind, the body, and the spirit as being complex. In order for the significator to be what it is not, it then must be granted the free will of the Creator. This set in motion a quite lengthy, in your terms, series of Logos’s improving or distilling this seed thought. The key was the significator becoming a complex.

    this means, each higher sub logos perceives itself as offering free will to those logoi directly in its care.

    this goes in turn. from the first logos to come form infinite intelligence, to any kind of construct/creation that ends up from the hands of a mind/body/spirit complex as an entity.

    there are important implications of this.

    first, the 'freedom' we are having at this level, is not the direct original thought of the first logos. it is a derivative of it, derived infinitely towards the smaller plane with chains of sublogoi.

    secondly, as per the title of this thread, it comes up so that there really isnt that much freedom indeed :

    the higher level logoi give their sublogoi freedom as much as they can allow. and they give their sublogoi more freedom.

    the higher you go, less freedom there is. the lower you go, more freedom.

    this, coincides directly with the spiritual mass of the entity, or the closeness of the entity to infinite intelligence.

    the reason is :

    http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#12

    Quote:13.12 Questioner: Can you tell me how intelligent infinity became, shall we say (I’m having difficulty with the language), how intelligent infinity became individualized from itself?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is an appropriate question.

    The intelligent infinity discerned a concept. This concept was discerned to be freedom of will of awareness. This concept was finity. This was the first and primal paradox or distortion of the Law of One.

    as you can see in the above quote, the very thing that enables freedom of will, is finity. the concept of finiteness.

    because through the concept of finiteness, movement will be possible, because a finite concept will be able to change where it stands in comparison to other finite concepts, and therefore make EVERYthing existing in this creation, existence, including free will, possible.

    if there is no finity, there cannot be any choice or freedom of will, because there wont be movement. the movement bit is my own refinement into possible reasons, and it is quite logical.

    however, what is evidently said in the above quote is, that, freedom of will (therefore high d love, the first 'love' - not 4d love -) is only possible as long as finiteness exist. it only became possible, with the invention of finity, so, if there is no finity, there cant be any freedom of will, or choice. (and probably, high d love)

    that quote, its logical conclusion again reinforce that, at the state of infinity, there is no freedom, since there can be no change to choose from, or no move to make (this includes emotions, states of mind, this and that).

    a direct corollary of this is, freedom increases as one goes down, freedom decreases as one goes up.

    this explains why we do not have galaxy-level, planet eating life forms in our universe. or, universe-dominating, galaxy-shattering toads living in rain ponds.

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    There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 08-08-2010, 10:58 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Peregrinus - 08-08-2010, 11:48 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-08-2010, 12:03 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Turtle - 08-08-2010, 06:33 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-08-2010, 08:22 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Steppingfeet - 08-11-2010, 11:13 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-12-2010, 02:37 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-08-2010, 09:36 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-08-2010, 09:48 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-08-2010, 09:55 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Ali Quadir - 08-09-2010, 10:57 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-12-2010, 02:50 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-14-2010, 02:02 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-14-2010, 02:38 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-16-2010, 11:43 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Ali Quadir - 08-17-2010, 03:47 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-17-2010, 07:28 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-12-2010, 10:07 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Cyclops - 08-13-2010, 07:12 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-15-2010, 05:58 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-19-2010, 10:31 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-20-2010, 04:08 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-24-2010, 09:28 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-24-2010, 09:42 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-28-2010, 06:43 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-31-2010, 10:01 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-01-2010, 08:46 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-01-2010, 10:35 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-01-2010, 11:46 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-02-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Aaron - 09-02-2010, 10:27 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-02-2010, 11:09 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Aaron - 09-02-2010, 11:27 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-03-2010, 08:22 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Aaron - 09-03-2010, 03:48 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-03-2010, 11:32 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-01-2010, 02:18 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-01-2010, 08:15 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-01-2010, 10:25 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-02-2010, 12:37 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-02-2010, 10:43 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-02-2010, 11:35 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-20-2010, 08:02 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-20-2010, 10:07 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-20-2010, 11:26 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-20-2010, 05:12 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Ali Quadir - 08-20-2010, 11:27 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Richard - 08-20-2010, 11:45 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-20-2010, 12:53 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-25-2010, 01:15 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-26-2010, 10:08 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-25-2010, 07:54 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-25-2010, 09:38 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Peregrinus - 08-28-2010, 01:19 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-30-2010, 04:43 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-03-2010, 08:12 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-03-2010, 08:54 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Poffo - 09-03-2010, 11:39 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-05-2010, 04:22 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-14-2010, 04:04 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Poffo - 09-17-2010, 04:49 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-17-2010, 11:37 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-04-2010, 04:21 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Aaron - 09-03-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-03-2010, 11:03 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-04-2010, 04:42 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-04-2010, 12:01 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Poffo - 09-04-2010, 06:19 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-04-2010, 07:51 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Turtle - 09-05-2010, 04:37 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-04-2010, 10:15 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-05-2010, 12:59 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-05-2010, 09:36 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-05-2010, 12:22 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-05-2010, 11:20 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-06-2010, 06:24 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Ali Quadir - 09-06-2010, 07:14 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-06-2010, 07:33 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-06-2010, 10:25 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-06-2010, 11:12 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-07-2010, 10:52 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-07-2010, 11:53 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-08-2010, 03:52 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-08-2010, 06:57 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-08-2010, 11:38 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-09-2010, 12:30 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-09-2010, 12:17 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Lavazza - 09-09-2010, 12:55 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-09-2010, 01:08 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-09-2010, 03:52 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-15-2010, 11:42 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-19-2010, 02:48 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-30-2010, 01:27 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-30-2010, 08:37 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-30-2010, 11:23 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 10-01-2010, 10:45 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 10-01-2010, 03:03 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 10-01-2010, 07:19 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 10-01-2010, 01:39 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 09-09-2010, 12:51 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Turtle - 09-05-2010, 01:49 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 09-05-2010, 02:16 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Turtle - 09-05-2010, 02:45 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 09-05-2010, 03:47 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Monica - 09-05-2010, 02:49 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Turtle - 09-05-2010, 03:03 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Etude in B Minor - 09-05-2010, 11:01 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Experience You - 09-06-2010, 01:44 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by seagrass - 09-08-2010, 12:30 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Experience You - 09-08-2010, 11:03 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Aaron - 09-09-2010, 01:46 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Lavazza - 09-09-2010, 10:53 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Monica - 09-09-2010, 11:33 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Ali Quadir - 09-10-2010, 09:32 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Quantum - 09-10-2010, 09:50 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Ali Quadir - 09-10-2010, 09:59 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Monica - 09-10-2010, 03:23 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by AnthroHeart - 09-14-2010, 04:28 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Ali Quadir - 09-17-2010, 05:19 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Etude in B Minor - 09-17-2010, 10:43 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 11-04-2010, 08:35 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 11-19-2010, 02:01 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Experience You - 11-20-2010, 03:24 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Infinite Unity - 07-17-2018, 05:56 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Patrick - 07-18-2018, 10:24 AM

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