(11-24-2010, 03:20 AM)Meerie Wrote: Why should I give up on something I enjoy. You cannot understand this as for you the guilt factor plays into it. So be it. As for obsessions I ask, who is more obsessed, someone who categorically excludes many things from their diet, because they think them "bad" or someone who does not exclude and goes after what their stomach tells them is good for them?I love the taste of meat. If I eat meat or eggs, it stops my digestive process for a week. The logic of regular people say that I need to get used to eating meat again. My own logic says I can go 10 years without eating a banana and it wont screw up my digestive tract with the first banana. If it was so good for me, why do I need to train my internal organs to deal with it?
No thing is good or bad per se, it is just your thinking that makes it so
First came the digestive problems, secondly the understanding that it is bad. Not the other way around. Then dicipline comes in, forcing my brain to follow logic instead of "taste". 10 years ago "taste" for me was mostly chemical based. When I was younger I had no idea why I would see a huge building with the name Taco Time Laboratory. Now I have learned enough to know that they spend a lot of time concocting different mixtures of chemicals to create that great "taste" that people are addicted to. Tricking the brain, for profit.
If you look up obssession, it mostly matches someone that does something compulsively, without rational thought behind it. Such as eating specifically for taste, rather than awareness.
The actual deciding factor for my rationality is when I compared our digestive organs to other animals. We are most like an ape, but have the strength of a baby. An ape or gorilla can toss over a car. Why are we so weak compared? They eat grass and leaves. Look at all the strongest land animals in the world and they eat grass. Our digestive tract is longer, like a plant eater, designed to absorb nutrients over a longer period. A meat eater has a short digestive tract, for digesting RAW meat over a short period. Once you cook it, you need 10 times as long to digest it. If you could see what the digestive system does, you would understand why so many have colon problems.
I still love the smell of cooking beef. Insects smell the same when cooked, as do human flesh, if you have ever really burned yourself bigtime

Quote:No thing is good or bad per se, it is just your thinking that makes it so.Logically that would eliminate the possibility of death from any type of injestion, poison or whatnot.
(11-24-2010, 07:49 AM)Meerie Wrote: Concerning whether plants can feel pain or not, you might be interested in googling Cleve Backster. An interesting book is also "the secret life of plants" by Tompkins.I have researched. It seems more plausible that it is the intent to harm, more so than the damage itself. The signals coming from a plant stop as soon as the intent has left the room. What I noticed is that the plant does not continue to put out a signal, which would be constant if it was in pain.
I am sure they can and in my view these peoples findings back my idea. But I am sure you will dismiss it as it would leave you with virtually nothing to eat
Science also knows that if over 50% of your food is cooked your body bumps up white blood cell production. Which says you have internal processes looking to defend against a foreign invader. Hopefully the body figures out what that invader is and doesn't cause an autoimmune response.
(11-24-2010, 10:40 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: That's why I love The Essene Gospel of Peace so much; Jesus said to eat what Mother Earth puts on her table.That is why I am moving to the food, instead of moving the food to me. When the future catastrophes begin to pop up around the world, I really don't want to rely on infrastructure or shipping to stay comfortable. Where I am right now, my family could die if the infrastructure went down. We lose a couple citizens every year from the wind chill during winter. I wouldn't care if I was single, but I have children I need to watch out for.
You know, when I was a child, I always wondered why those starving groups of humans never moved to where the food is?