08-27-2017, 12:57 PM
Thank you for taking the time to explain Minyatur, but there's a LOT that confuses or eludes me in your explanation. Allow me to respond, in italics below.
Sorry. I don't get the above quote either.
Apologies that I'm not able to get this! And thank you sincerely for the sustained discussion.
(08-24-2017, 01:16 PM)Minyatur Wrote:(08-24-2017, 11:48 AM)chamkigirl Wrote: Thank you, all. This has really helped, though I am still a bit confused about how someone of negative polarity can be harvested. I see that this is also about my letting go of my judgements of STS being "wrong", and to truly accept and understand FREE WILL as the Law of One intends. I am just starting to scratch the surface of the Ra material, and many of your answers have helped me go deeper.
Thank you!
Harvest within the Octave is in no way about becoming better and instead an exploration of a given spectrum of beingness and so harvest is linked to vibrational growth within this spectrum. If you hold both charges they will nullify one another and so you need to explore a given charge to ascend upward.
I think you can see both polarities as being selfful and only the outer edges of the Octave reflect actual selflessness, emergence into 1D from the Source and the merging into 7D toward the Source, which touches to that which is One unconditionally with All. The Octave system in the middle is then dependant upon you holding a selfful charge as the exploration of a self, and both polarities are poles of a potential charge you can have in relation to yourself as both self and other-selves in perception of the Creator seen in both. Both polarities are potentials of Love and can hold an equal charge, Love is that which rejects and accepts under circumstances.
What does this mean? I don't get it.
To give a simple example. If you desire, as a self, to be of a STO nature, then can you be One with All? The answer is no because you desire to embrace a single aspect of your infinite nature while rejecting its counterpart, while your self totality is truly both always.
Sure, but as a STO oriented person, I would be 51% or more dedicated to others, which means I would be 49% or less dedicated to myself. So, I don't desire to embrace a "single aspect of [my] infinite nature". I have both aspects within me in a certain proportion.
Selflessness is stagnation within the design of the Octave which requires selffulness to advance. STO is much like the default nature of things and as such any exploration of STS reflect the required circumstances for STO to be made STS and STS ever only resolves in embracing and accepting itself (being STO with the self) and this healing enables one to then be STO with others. STS distortions cannot be overcome and must be distilled positively, as it is an aspect of what we all are.
I don't understand the phrases in bold.
More than that STS is not wrong, it is that STO is not good. You are STO for yourself as you are both self and other-selves and being STO is basically just being in a heathly relationship with what you are. Then one can ask, why can the self be driven toward being unhealthy with itself? (maybe its awareness of love rejects aspects of itself?)
You say "STO is not good", but then you say STO is "basically being in healthy relationship with what you are". So, isn't that "good"?
And the bit in bold, i don't understand.
Another simple example of sefful postive/negative charge and selfless positive/negative charge. Say mankind harvested negatively, the Earth would then become selflessly negatively charged although it would not be selffuly negatively charged.
Sorry. I don't get the above quote either.
Apologies that I'm not able to get this! And thank you sincerely for the sustained discussion.