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[Infinite Unity]

So, are you implying that to love another is real and to love self is not real?  (I'll just assume "not.")  To love another is to assume duality which is also "not," no?  In other words, both loves are distortions of unity, just different flavors of such.  (Not sure how you can "learn from" a flavor, but that's another question.  Maybe, it's best simply experienced?)

The philosophical point I'm exploring can be described as the teleology of spiritual evolution, the "why" of this illusion of separation.  Infinity being infinite, nothing can exist that is not contained within that infinity.  So the issue is what it is about experience of separation in some of the forms you describe -- both positive and negative -- that makes's the Creator's foray into separateness valuable or necessary in some way that wasn't already part of that infinity?

In many cases the Confederation have described the Creator's ultimate goal as "knowing itself" or learning about itself in some way.  The mystery, to me, is how something that is already infinite could have more of anything, whether that be knowledge, understanding, appreciation, etc.  A goal implies a lack to be filled, and infinity cannot lack anything by definition.

I think the reason I think about this question in particular is that it exposes a difference between A Course in Miracles and Confederation philosophy.  ACIM tends to paint a lot of the illusion of separation as objectionable precisely because it is not part of "what is real", in other words "that which is not".  It literally says that any sort of negativity is not real and that we must wake up from the dream in which we believe it's real.  However, the Confederation paints a picture where the illusion of separation somehow teaches or augments the Creator through some sort of evolutionary sequence of distilled experiences.

I'm not losing any sleep over any of this, Peregrine.

the sheer "influence" or majesty of LOVE itself is the only explainable, yet still remaining unexplainable conundrum of a answer. If it raises above yet a whisper, it escapes through your hands as if sand. It cannot be grasped, only felt, only experienced. What you see moving, is moved by the mover(Love). What is moved is Love. Entities are like geographical forms, in that. there are valleys, summits, and peaks. there are shallow, intimate, and deep people. They all have there part in forming the creation itself. If all people were the same, you could expect the whole ocean to be the exact same depth throughout. You can see in a geographical manner, how just as the aforementioned valleys, summits, and peaks. Are just like the cycles that entites go through. However is that surprising...as they we, are all entities. We are all focuses of The Creator, and in my opinion, being a focus. Is more to say you are focus, and that you focus on what you want brought forth from Infinity into the Creation. That is your perfection, that is all are fruit. We bring forth from Infinity, were there are no limits.

In my opinion Infinity is lonely, and Creation is like a quilt. Were Infinity is brought in at focus amounts. Were the creator has a place of manyness. that in itself because of the sheer infinity of Infinity. It itself is Infinite. yet still Finite. Entites and there fruits and unity. Speaks volumes of Infinity or singularity in my opinion. Or Oneness. Or in other words, the only thing Infinity can remember or focus on is you. you son of a b****!=)

I agree with the superposition, that the creator is inert. In that the Creator is not driven, or wired like a MBS complex. It is so about love, and beyond how we conceputelize is to see it as inert. Yet all things flow, and find form from the inert.