Hi everyone,
Thanks for all the great responses. Some interesting discussions happening here!
Based on some comments here and further thinking on the matter, I feel that our polarity must be based on our intentions behind our actions, mostly. There may be some exceptions to this that I can't think of at the moment... I think this also agrees with the idea of 'instant salvation', where a negative 6th density entity can switch polarities without having to repeat all the previous densities of experience.
As far as STS really being STO and STO really being STS, I can see the logic in this. But I think for the vast majority of people this is not something that happens. Simply because it is very hard to do something that goes against your true intentions. In some cases it might apply though. If you really believed in your heart that your actions would have the desired outcome, then the result at the very least cannot be opposite of what your intent was. To use an extreme example, Hitler truly believed he was helping humanity for the better with all of his ethnic cleansing. (He was also insane to some degree, but lets ignore that for the time being!). Since his actions were a result of his desire for ultimately serving others, what is the result? Now, I have to say I'm not completely sure. I would propose, perhaps, that the final result would be somewhere close to neutral. Certainly it can't be STO for obvious reasons, but we can't really say it's STS either.
These are just some thoughts- I have to say I don't think we can fully understand it at our level... But it's fun to ponder.
As to the Hatonn debate, simply because Hatonn is in the density of love doesn't really mean to me that he is not capable of having wisdom. Indeed I have met many wise third density entities. Lest we forget that Hatonn has has passed the very graduation that we also hope to pass- that's reason enough to listen to his words in my opinion. But regardless of this, I always find much insight and benefit when Hatonn speaks for the Q'uo group.
On the topic of Ra giving us the percentages, I agree they are not helpful. I do not understand why they were given to us, except perhaps in response to the questioner asking. It may well be that Ra did not anticipate percentages creating anxiety... I take pause at the thought that it was intentionally STS motivated. It may be well to think on though- because 6th density is the density of balance. Balance between love and wisdom, and also a balance between STO and STS. And again, this is something that I just don't fully understand.
Ever more confused,
Lavazza
Richard,
I've just printed the transcript that you linked above, and in briefly skimming the text it looks to show great promise for the topic at hand. I'll read it fully tonight, thanks very much!
Thanks for all the great responses. Some interesting discussions happening here!
Based on some comments here and further thinking on the matter, I feel that our polarity must be based on our intentions behind our actions, mostly. There may be some exceptions to this that I can't think of at the moment... I think this also agrees with the idea of 'instant salvation', where a negative 6th density entity can switch polarities without having to repeat all the previous densities of experience.
As far as STS really being STO and STO really being STS, I can see the logic in this. But I think for the vast majority of people this is not something that happens. Simply because it is very hard to do something that goes against your true intentions. In some cases it might apply though. If you really believed in your heart that your actions would have the desired outcome, then the result at the very least cannot be opposite of what your intent was. To use an extreme example, Hitler truly believed he was helping humanity for the better with all of his ethnic cleansing. (He was also insane to some degree, but lets ignore that for the time being!). Since his actions were a result of his desire for ultimately serving others, what is the result? Now, I have to say I'm not completely sure. I would propose, perhaps, that the final result would be somewhere close to neutral. Certainly it can't be STO for obvious reasons, but we can't really say it's STS either.
These are just some thoughts- I have to say I don't think we can fully understand it at our level... But it's fun to ponder.
As to the Hatonn debate, simply because Hatonn is in the density of love doesn't really mean to me that he is not capable of having wisdom. Indeed I have met many wise third density entities. Lest we forget that Hatonn has has passed the very graduation that we also hope to pass- that's reason enough to listen to his words in my opinion. But regardless of this, I always find much insight and benefit when Hatonn speaks for the Q'uo group.
On the topic of Ra giving us the percentages, I agree they are not helpful. I do not understand why they were given to us, except perhaps in response to the questioner asking. It may well be that Ra did not anticipate percentages creating anxiety... I take pause at the thought that it was intentionally STS motivated. It may be well to think on though- because 6th density is the density of balance. Balance between love and wisdom, and also a balance between STO and STS. And again, this is something that I just don't fully understand.
Ever more confused,
Lavazza
Richard,
I've just printed the transcript that you linked above, and in briefly skimming the text it looks to show great promise for the topic at hand. I'll read it fully tonight, thanks very much!