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    Thread: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY


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    07-17-2018, 05:56 PM (This post was last modified: 07-17-2018, 06:44 PM by Infinite Unity.)
    (08-08-2010, 10:58 AM)unity100 Wrote: We are told that, we have free will. That we can choose. That, there exists free will. Various philosophies and propositions exist to that extent.

    Lets examine a rock. it is in the 1st consciousness of this octave. its free will, freedom of movement, manifestation, states that it can choose to be, are, what a rock can be.

    Lets examine a single cellular organism. it is in the early 2nd consciousness. it can move about, manifest, choose states of being limited to a single cell organism. it cannot go more than this. the available set of choices to it, are defined.

    Lets examine a late 2d organism. it moves about, it has various feelings, it can act socially, and make more choices. its choices are much broader.

    Now a 3d entity. It is aware that there are other entities exist. the choices available to it increases.

    A 4d entity is one that lives in an environment that thoughts reflect to become things. This effect is lower in early stages of 4d, and it increases to high level in late stages of 4d.

    And when the entity moves to 5d, freedom increases even more. it can change its body to manifest as it wants, food can be created, light can be shaped.

    by now i think we established a pattern :

    The level of freedom and free will and choices increase as one goes higher in the octave and nears infinity.

    Vice versa, finiteness, makes an entity lack free will and choice, proportional to the level of its finiteness. from rock, to 7d entity, there is a constant increase in freedom.

    moreover, there are even more changes from octave to octave. back in the previous octave, there was the mover and the moved polarities.

    can anyone now choose to be of mover polarity ? or the moved ? no. these polarities are now built in to manifestation, the archetypes of mind, body and spirit, and they cannot be totally separated from each other.

    that means that, basically, the entities in this octave are much more free in various ways, but also, they are not free in some other ways ; regardless of how high you go in the octave, you cannot just choose to manifest the polarities and realities of the earlier octave in this octave, because, the fabric and rules of existence in this octave do not allow this.

    thats, another limitation of free will and choices.

    there is even a more curious conclusion ; even though freedom increases as one nears infinity, and, probably becomes totally infinite (with the rate it is going) at the point of infinity, infinity itself is not free ! because, infinity is infinity, and cannot choose to be anything other than infinity, if it remains as infinity. for infinity to have any choice, it must be finite. this, is impossible for infinity -> only its finite parts can choose, because, different states are only available to finites.

    these philosophically limit the freedom and free will, and makes it not unbounded, and cannot be unbounded.

    moreover, the way this octave is built, ie in graded steps, and in interactive cause->effect relationships as a functioning system makes it so that the available choices to an entity is limited and dependent on the set of possibilities its environment offers to it.

    if we look at this light, then, various wisdom points come into light. i will use Ra's and yahweh's examples to illustrate these. tesla also can be used, or einstein actually.

    now, in the history of this solar system, various 3d societies were offered various technological or spiritual boons. this, led maldek to be destroyed, mars become inhabitable, and earth to destabilize, (and maybe narrowly averted destruction) and innumerable other issues and troubles.

    the corollary of the philosophical points above reflect in these cases as such :

    what was given was beyond the set of freedom defined for 3d entities. hence, it created problems.

    imagine putting a monkey in the control room of a nuclear reactor. or, a nuclear silo. it sounds absurd isnt it. it is. because, it shouldnt happen.

    or, imagine giving shotguns, or the control of a crane to 4 year old kids. similarly, these shouldnt also happen.

    there is also the idea that, when looked from the perspective of 7d totality, there isnt that much freedom because anyone's actions and choices changes things, and affects also others, making our choices and freedoms limited with all the entities manifesting in our octave. or maybe even beyond. but that is a separate, and lengthy topic it seems.

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    There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 08-08-2010, 10:58 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Peregrinus - 08-08-2010, 11:48 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-08-2010, 12:03 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Turtle - 08-08-2010, 06:33 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-08-2010, 08:22 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Steppingfeet - 08-11-2010, 11:13 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-12-2010, 02:37 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-08-2010, 09:36 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-08-2010, 09:48 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-08-2010, 09:55 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Ali Quadir - 08-09-2010, 10:57 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-12-2010, 02:50 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-14-2010, 02:02 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-14-2010, 02:38 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-16-2010, 11:43 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Ali Quadir - 08-17-2010, 03:47 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-17-2010, 07:28 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-12-2010, 10:07 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Cyclops - 08-13-2010, 07:12 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-15-2010, 05:58 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-19-2010, 10:31 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-20-2010, 04:08 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-24-2010, 09:28 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-24-2010, 09:42 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-28-2010, 06:43 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-31-2010, 10:01 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-01-2010, 08:46 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-01-2010, 10:35 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-01-2010, 11:46 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-02-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Aaron - 09-02-2010, 10:27 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-02-2010, 11:09 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Aaron - 09-02-2010, 11:27 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-03-2010, 08:22 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Aaron - 09-03-2010, 03:48 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-03-2010, 11:32 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-01-2010, 02:18 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-01-2010, 08:15 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-01-2010, 10:25 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-02-2010, 12:37 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-02-2010, 10:43 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-02-2010, 11:35 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-20-2010, 08:02 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Questioner - 08-20-2010, 10:07 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-20-2010, 11:26 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-20-2010, 05:12 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Ali Quadir - 08-20-2010, 11:27 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Richard - 08-20-2010, 11:45 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-20-2010, 12:53 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-25-2010, 01:15 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 08-26-2010, 10:08 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-25-2010, 07:54 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 08-25-2010, 09:38 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Peregrinus - 08-28-2010, 01:19 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 08-30-2010, 04:43 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-03-2010, 08:12 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-03-2010, 08:54 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Poffo - 09-03-2010, 11:39 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-05-2010, 04:22 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-14-2010, 04:04 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Poffo - 09-17-2010, 04:49 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-17-2010, 11:37 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-04-2010, 04:21 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Aaron - 09-03-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-03-2010, 11:03 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-04-2010, 04:42 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-04-2010, 12:01 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Poffo - 09-04-2010, 06:19 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-04-2010, 07:51 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Turtle - 09-05-2010, 04:37 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-04-2010, 10:15 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-05-2010, 12:59 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-05-2010, 09:36 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-05-2010, 12:22 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-05-2010, 11:20 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-06-2010, 06:24 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Ali Quadir - 09-06-2010, 07:14 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-06-2010, 07:33 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-06-2010, 10:25 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-06-2010, 11:12 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by βαθμιαίος - 09-07-2010, 10:52 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-07-2010, 11:53 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-08-2010, 03:52 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-08-2010, 06:57 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-08-2010, 11:38 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-09-2010, 12:30 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-09-2010, 12:17 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Lavazza - 09-09-2010, 12:55 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-09-2010, 01:08 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-09-2010, 03:52 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-15-2010, 11:42 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 09-19-2010, 02:48 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-30-2010, 01:27 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 09-30-2010, 08:37 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 09-30-2010, 11:23 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 10-01-2010, 10:45 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Quantum - 10-01-2010, 03:03 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by unity100 - 10-01-2010, 07:19 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Monica - 10-01-2010, 01:39 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems - by Experience You - 09-09-2010, 12:51 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Turtle - 09-05-2010, 01:49 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 09-05-2010, 02:16 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Turtle - 09-05-2010, 02:45 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 09-05-2010, 03:47 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Monica - 09-05-2010, 02:49 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Turtle - 09-05-2010, 03:03 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Etude in B Minor - 09-05-2010, 11:01 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Experience You - 09-06-2010, 01:44 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by seagrass - 09-08-2010, 12:30 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Experience You - 09-08-2010, 11:03 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Aaron - 09-09-2010, 01:46 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Lavazza - 09-09-2010, 10:53 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Monica - 09-09-2010, 11:33 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Ali Quadir - 09-10-2010, 09:32 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Quantum - 09-10-2010, 09:50 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Ali Quadir - 09-10-2010, 09:59 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Monica - 09-10-2010, 03:23 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by AnthroHeart - 09-14-2010, 04:28 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Ali Quadir - 09-17-2010, 05:19 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Etude in B Minor - 09-17-2010, 10:43 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 11-04-2010, 08:35 AM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by unity100 - 11-19-2010, 02:01 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Experience You - 11-20-2010, 03:24 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Infinite Unity - 07-17-2018, 05:56 PM
    RE: There isnt that much freedom it seems...and INFINITY - by Patrick - 07-18-2018, 10:24 AM

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