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    11-09-2019, 08:20 AM
    I do agree that there's subjective elements to all experience. Objectivity is more like a way of filtering, structuring, and making use of experience. It is a way of examining the relation of different things at levels of existence in which they appear as separate. (The ways in which things are connected, or interact, is also part of the reality at such levels.)

    A rigidly objective focus can take a lot of joy out of things, but the potential still exists for the joy of discovery, or invention, and similar, in connection with objective exploration. And there's a range of positive subjective experience connected with learning and teaching of more objective kinds.

    A more objective approach to inner life is a trickier subject, and there's various conflicting philosophies as to what that means, and whether or not it's possible.

    The Fourth Way ideas go the farthest in terms of aiming at a structured exploration which, in principle, parallels the structure of the cosmos. A fundamental difference exists compared to the way in which empirical science is conducted: instead of accepting ideas in the absence of conflicting evidence, ideas are accepted when there is "inner" evidence to support them. (Though comparison and changes in ideas when evidence points in different directions is still part of the picture.)

    In the first Gnosis book, Mouravieff also points out that the objective can only be approached through the medium of the subjective. (Esoteric studies are described as a means of giving objective validity to a subjective mentality, though a more far-ranging objective consciousness ultimately requires an enormous inner change referred to as the "second birth".)

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    Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by Asolsutsesvyl - 11-05-2019, 07:08 AM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by Loki - 11-05-2019, 10:08 AM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by RitaJC - 11-05-2019, 10:13 AM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by Loki - 11-05-2019, 10:19 AM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by AnthroHeart - 11-05-2019, 11:03 AM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by RitaJC - 11-05-2019, 12:53 PM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by Asolsutsesvyl - 11-09-2019, 08:20 AM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by unity100 - 11-10-2019, 06:51 PM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by Trinity2Infinity - 03-25-2020, 11:44 AM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by Asolsutsesvyl - 02-02-2021, 08:57 AM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by unity100 - 02-08-2021, 12:44 AM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by Asolsutsesvyl - 02-09-2021, 05:52 PM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by Patrick - 02-09-2021, 08:08 PM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by Asolsutsesvyl - 02-10-2021, 12:05 PM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by Patrick - 02-10-2021, 12:23 PM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by Diana - 02-10-2021, 01:17 PM
    RE: Objectivity & subjectivity in relation to positivity & negativity - by Asolsutsesvyl - 02-10-2021, 02:16 PM

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