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    02-16-2011, 03:32 AM (This post was last modified: 02-16-2011, 03:38 AM by Monica.)
    (02-15-2011, 11:59 PM)yossarian Wrote: You're expecting way too much.

    Maybe so. I naively believed we could actually pull it off - get him elected. And he'd end the wars.

    In that respect, it was a failure.

    (02-15-2011, 11:59 PM)yossarian Wrote: The Ron Paul Revolution was a massive success. It was a baby step towards future victories by independents.

    In that respect, yes it was a success. I'm not sure I'd call it a massive success. It seems to me that progress is moving at a snail's pace, when it comes to politics. Look at how close our country came to electing a cartoon character for VP!

    (02-15-2011, 11:59 PM)yossarian Wrote: You give the "masses" way too little credit for their own predicament. They have the true power and many people are beginning to recognize media bias - more people than ever before. The traditional TV networks are losing viewership in droves to independent internet news sources precisely because people are waking up to the fact that they have an agenda.

    I hope you're right! I do see that happening too, but I guess I had hoped for more, and faster.

    (02-15-2011, 11:59 PM)yossarian Wrote: It boggles my mind how you're able to take a massive success like Ron Paul's candidacy and see it as a failure. He did things that have never been done before! He exposed an entire generation of people to ideals that various mind controllers had presumed dead. And he demonstrated the power of the internet.

    OK. I don't disagree with that.

    (02-15-2011, 11:59 PM)yossarian Wrote: Change doesn't happen overnight. It happens one small victory at a time. Ron Paul was one victory. Obama was another victory.

    Agreed. Obama is a very volatile subject - it amazes me how some people think he's a savior while others think he's anti-Christ - but regardless, it was a victory in many ways, and represents great strides towards reducing bigotry. I felt that a lot of healing occurred in the African-American community, when he got elected. Although, it also stirred up a lot of hatred and bigotry.

    (02-15-2011, 11:59 PM)yossarian Wrote: over 1% of Canada's population made their voices heard by writing to our elected officials and the government stepped in directly because they knew if they didn't they would lose the next election. It's that simple. Canada has a democracy just like the USA and if the public makes their voice heard their will will be done.

    I love your optimism! Here in the US it's easy to fall prey to cynicism, after the corruption of the last 2 elections, not to mention 911.

    (02-15-2011, 11:59 PM)yossarian Wrote: All the power rests with the public. If they choose to allow their media sources to be biased, then so be it. That is the choice they are making and they will suffer the consequences. But if they insist that their media sources be unbiased and fair then those media sources will have absolutely no choice in the matter and will either change or die.

    Ultimately, we all contribute to the creation of consensual reality, so yes, that is true.

    (02-15-2011, 11:59 PM)yossarian Wrote: Mind control is real but no mind control is all powerful.

    Well said!

    (02-15-2011, 11:59 PM)yossarian Wrote: I think the lesson being taught to a great many people on this 3D plane is to start exercising their power and stop giving it away to authorities who don't have their best intentions in mind. Whether the lesson is necessary or not, I don't know. But that's the situation and I am full of optimism. Compared to 1970 our media is so much more free and open and honest. That's progress.

    Agreed!

    (02-15-2011, 11:59 PM)yossarian Wrote: As long as we're moving in the right direction I say that is cause for celebration. Ron Paul was a huge move in the right direction.

    Thanks for the pep talk! BigSmile
    (02-16-2011, 03:05 AM)Crimson Wrote: What I think has happened it that the elite has been extremely successful in distorting ideas/ideals.

    Exactly!

    Both capitalism and socialism have good points that together form a balance - the freedom of capitalism and the concern for the common good of socialism.

    But both have been corrupted by the STS elite.

    (02-16-2011, 03:05 AM)Crimson Wrote: The socialism I am talking about was never allowed to exist...You cannot say anything against it because it does not exist...yet.

    Very true. The socialism as described by unity100 isn't the same as what has been demonstrated here in 3D. The tendency of STS entities to gain control of the masses and force them into compliance, isn't socialism. That is a corruption of the ideal.

    Likewise for the fascism currently corrupting the principles of free enterprise.

    Both systems have fallen prey to corruption by those seeking to control.

    As an ideal, the concept of a capitalist corporation isn't so different from that of a socialist system. In practice, they aren't so different either.

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